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Old 06-06-2014, 20:31   #1
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Ok, just got my unit. As others have noted, when I blew in my machine it did nothing, blue. This is with less than 70 grams protein and 20 grams carbs and upwards of 180 grams of fat pretty much daily. 80 fat, 15 protein, 5 carbs with 1900 cals.

Am I doing this right, take normal breath, blow until I express all air, leave the thing plugged in and wait? I waited minutes and it didn't budge. Obviously, I am not in ketosis for my morning test, but I am perplexed. I have a bad cold, could this hamper in any way. Would you sport users give me your routine, dummied down.

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Everytime I read a Ketonix post, I'm reminded that I have one too. But at this point of time, I'm far far away from ketosis, that I dare not try using it.

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I don't have the sport. Mine has four colors. Blue Green Yellow Red.

Most times it takes two blows for it to register. Usually I get Yellow and sometimes Green, but I have yet to achieve Red.

I exhale as much as possible until it's uncomfortable.

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Well, can't understand why no color change. I have a cold and I haven't felt like eating. Only had a large coffee with cream, coconut oil, and butter. I feel that I should at least be registering something. This may be a bad thing for me as I am kind of anal, obsessive, and over do things at times.

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Victory, yellow 1 1/2 hours after dinner. Done fretting. I have never registered very high, even when testing blood ketones. I think 1.5 was ever my high.

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I feel that I should at least be registering something. This may be a bad thing for me as I am kind of anal, obsessive, and over do things at times.
I hear ya.

I use the windows clock gadget as a stopwatch to time a regular breath, hold it for 15 seconds, then blow out for 15 - 20 seconds. I haven't figured out when my ketones will be highest but I suppose it doesn't matter as long as I am producing acetone. Usually get four yellow flashes but it can range anywhere from 6 green to 6 yellow.

I like to translate the flashes into a ppm estimate for recording into a log. Based on this chart I assume there are up to 10 flashes per range but this is probably incorrect. There might only be seven or eight flashes per range (which makes sense if the raw sensor value is masked at three bits wide).



I assume,

green is: # flashes + 10,
yellow is: # flashes / 10 * 20 + 20.

Probably not right but close enough I guess.


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Hey weasel...I will have to work on those equations...I appreciate your sharing. Yesterday afternoon, I finally blew yellow in the afternoon a couple of hours after lunch. Was almost yellow in the evening, was solidly green this morning. Weird thing is I don't register any ketones with a small breakfast, piece of cheese and lunch meat skipping lunch. I am blue eating that breakfast skipping noon meal, and maybe eating at 2 pm. I figured I would show ketones not eating, which leads me to wonder, am I only burning dietary fat, not body fat. Can you be keto adapted, cycling in and out of ketosis. I am beginning to think I don't know as much as I originally thought about ketosis.

Weasel, or others, what are your thoughts on this?

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Weasel, what are your calculations showing? I know you said ppm, but that doesn't mean anything to me. I know using my blood ketone measurement, I get decimal readings. In the past, I have almost registered .5 or higher. As I move into the eve, I could get to 1.5 or so. Any idea how your calculations may align to the blood measurements, or am I way off base in my thinking? It is clear to me, that you are thinking at a much higher plane level I am. Any further insight would be appreciated. Thanks

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Weasel, what are your calculations showing? I know you said ppm, but that doesn't mean anything to me.
It doesn't mean a lot except a higher index correlates to more acetone from the lungs. My strategy is to keep that number as high as possible because I assume a high number roughly corresponds to a higher level of beta-hydroxybutyrate.

I put all the readings into a database. I figure with enough data there's a chance I can find a correlation with macro nutrients, or exercise, or weight, or body fat percentage ... or maybe not. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

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I know using my blood ketone measurement, I get decimal readings. In the past, I have almost registered .5 or higher. As I move into the eve, I could get to 1.5 or so. Any idea how your calculations may align to the blood measurements, or am I way off base in my thinking?
No. You're thinking is spot on. The Ketonix website says that the team is working on a guide for translating the colored flashes (i.e., acetone ppm) into an equivalent beta-hydroxybutyrate level. I don't have a blood meter so you would have better information than I do.

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Weird thing is I don't register any ketones with a small breakfast, piece of cheese and lunch meat skipping lunch. I am blue eating that breakfast skipping noon meal, and maybe eating at 2 pm. I figured I would show ketones not eating, which leads me to wonder, am I only burning dietary fat, not body fat.
I am keeping well away from blue by being strict with carbs and protein. Usually less than 15g carbs per day. I actually find it hard to eat all of the items in my plans. Start to feel over-full. Here's a couple of sample plans from today and what I plan to eat tomorrow.

Overall I try to have zero carbs in the morning. This was advice from a nutritionist that recently was interviewed by the host of Diabetes Summit.

Anyone ... feel free to critique these plans. I welcome feedback.
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Wow, thanks for such an intricate post. For some reason, my iPad has cut the posts off on the right. I will try to look on my wife's computer when she's done working to see if that helps. Again weasel, thanks. Can't wait to read and dissect.

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