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Old 07-30-2014, 03:52   #1
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im confused on how the low carbs supposed to work
this morning my fasting was 12.9
my breakfast was a 5 gram carb hot choc.
and 4 boiled wieners of 8 carbs (total of 13)
I tested a few times during the day and it slowly came down
to 6.7
and when I finally had food to eat (had to shop)
I ate 6 slices ham of 12 carbs and 1 pepperete stick of
1 gram and a different one of 1/2 gram carbs
(13.5 total)
and measured to discover that I was back up to 8
I don't understand what happened and am very discouraged
because I need to see this low carb work in order to
even continue

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Old 07-30-2014, 04:17   #2
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Just a guess here, but for low carbs to work you need to increase your intake of fat. Fat is what you need for energy and to keep you from getting hungry. It doesn't look like you ate much fat. Maybe mostly protein a small amount of fat and a few carbs.

Too much protein will eventually turn to carbs and body fat. It will also, I believe keep your blood glucose a bit high.

You need to focus on about 80% fat, 15% protein and 5% carbs or there abouts.

Maybe try adding coconut oil and heavy cream to your hot choc to up the fat. Try some eggs as well. Spinach, broccoli, peppers, cauliflower, mushrooms are all good and you can dip them in melted butter.

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Yes 13.5 carbs will raise BG. 8 is better than eating 60gr of carbs and having a BG of 18.

Are you on any meds?

Test BG count carbs (you are, good)eat test 1hour and 2 hours after eating.

Your morning high BG could be Dawn Phenomenon (DP) dont give up it takes time to sort it out every body is different so no one can say do x,y,z and your BG will be perfect.
keep a log and keep plugging away you see chainges and it will get easier.

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I'm no good at math, so if I'm wrong, forgive me, but I show you had 45 g. of protein today plus any other small carbs…salad, other green veges and no appreciable fats aside from those from the fats in your b'fast. 45 is over the limit it requires for me to stay under my 20-30 per day (with no meds) and I don't tolerate more than 5g or less in the morning and the most at lunch or early supper. Could that be the problem? Try two eggs (cooked any way you want…boiled, cold, or any other way you choose, a twist of cheese, avocado, etc at b'fast or maybe only the coffee enhanced with coconut oil, butter or as I do, high fat cream and then a bit of cheese mid morning with a good, low carb mid-day meal and protein, green veges etc for dinner followed by a 'fat bomb' after. A couple of days should show you for the effect of LC/HF and you will be thrilled. Fat is the secret to not being hungry.

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I'm brand new to this - but just in the last week I found WebMD has a free food journal/tracker and it has a nice tool that will show you how much Fat vs. Protein vs. Carbs you've eaten.

It's a good snapshot to see if you are on target for hitting the 80% fat for the day.

Good luck!

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Yes 13.5 carbs will raise BG. 8 is better than eating 60gr of carbs and having a BG of 18.

Are you on any meds?

Test BG count carbs (you are, good)eat test 1hour and 2 hours after eating.

Your morning high BG could be Dawn Phenomenon (DP) dont give up it takes time to sort it out every body is different so no one can say do x,y,z and your BG will be perfect.
keep a log and keep plugging away you see chainges and it will get easier.
I am on 2000 mg metformin and am considering taking more
mg before bed to see if it improves fasting levels when I get up
rather than the 1000mg twice daily

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I'm brand new to this - but just in the last week I found WebMD has a free food journal/tracker and it has a nice tool that will show you how much Fat vs. Protein vs. Carbs you've eaten.

It's a good snapshot to see if you are on target for hitting the 80% fat for the day.

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thanks i'll try it
I wont be able to figure out the numbers so that sounds helpful

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Just a guess here, but for low carbs to work you need to increase your intake of fat. Fat is what you need for energy and to keep you from getting hungry. It doesn't look like you ate much fat. Maybe mostly protein a small amount of fat and a few carbs.

Too much protein will eventually turn to carbs and body fat. It will also, I believe keep your blood glucose a bit high.

You need to focus on about 80% fat, 15% protein and 5% carbs or there abouts.

Maybe try adding coconut oil and heavy cream to your hot choc to up the fat. Try some eggs as well. Spinach, broccoli, peppers, cauliflower, mushrooms are all good and you can dip them in melted butter.
I've been having trouble figuring out how to eat fat
I mostly look for high fat foods but I still don't really know
what it is exactly like how to eat it
so I end up with more protein

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I'm no good at math, so if I'm wrong, forgive me, but I show you had 45 g. of protein today plus any other small carbs…salad, other green veges and no appreciable fats aside from those from the fats in your b'fast. 45 is over the limit it requires for me to stay under my 20-30 per day (with no meds) and I don't tolerate more than 5g or less in the morning and the most at lunch or early supper. Could that be the problem? Try two eggs (cooked any way you want…boiled, cold, or any other way you choose, a twist of cheese, avocado, etc at b'fast or maybe only the coffee enhanced with coconut oil, butter or as I do, high fat cream and then a bit of cheese mid morning with a good, low carb mid-day meal and protein, green veges etc for dinner followed by a 'fat bomb' after. A couple of days should show you for the effect of LC/HF and you will be thrilled. Fat is the secret to not being hungry.

Good luck,
so try lower protein meals, with more fat and add some low carb veggies?
what's a fat bomb?

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A few near-random thoughts ...

Fasting is often the last number to go down.

Thirteen carbs at a time definitely spike me.

Was the hot chocolate sugar-free?

Big dollops of mayo would go nicely with the wieners. And the ham.

Ham also goes great with full-fat cheeses ... even cream cheese! Come to think of it, sliced cheese goes great with wieners, too.

We have a few fat bomb recipes in our Recipes subforum. A Google search will reveal many more recipes, both sweet and savory.

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