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Old 08-11-2014, 01:47   #1
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I posted a study saying that eating fruit and vegetables lowers mortality. The study below says that meat eaters are healthier. So, which study is correct? Both? Neither?

Study: Vegetarians Less Healthy, Lower Quality Of Life Than Meat-Eaters « CBS Atlanta

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I have eaten fruit, vegetables and meat every day of my life, and I am healthy. Maybe we can conclude from the headlines in the two studies that eating fruit, vegetables, and meat will enable us to lower our mortality, and be healthier. HAHA!!

( I am type 1 and use insulin for every carb I eat, so my point of view is based on that fact.)

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We're an omnivorous species. It makes sense that, as individuals, we run along the entire spectrum from near-obligate herbivore to near-obligate carnivore.

Diabetes is definitely easier to manage if one is somewhat carnivorous, more of a challenge for ovo-lacto vegetarians (perhaps due to cultural and supply issues, at least in part) ... and, from what I can see, near-impossible for vegans.

It appears that diabetes tends to push us to the middle of the spectrum.

(I still can't really do fruit.)

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I suspect that what this means is these journalists are being paid by the column inch, so the more longer articles they crank out, the more money they make.

And still none of them bother with researching the dietary needs of diabetics, despite the fact that other media headlines are incessantly lamenting the epidemic of diabetes. That would be FAR too much work for a run-of-the-mill reporter just tryin' to earn a living.




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Richard, I'd go with the meat eaters having better health. History….




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One of my friends says..."I think you can find what you're looking for if you only look for articles that confirm your beliefs." I agree with him.

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I posted a study saying that eating fruit and vegetables lowers mortality. The study below says that meat eaters are healthier. So, which study is correct? Both? Neither?

Study: Vegetarians Less Healthy, Lower Quality Of Life Than Meat-Eaters « CBS Atlanta
I think the answer is yes, both or neither. It appears that both of these "studies" are either ‘observational’ or ‘epidemiological’ and we see this often now days. Trying to prove causation by association simply does not work. These are not clinical trials and only show what may be worth more investigation. Too often, geeze, almost every day, we see articles trying to headline a new discovery and the press puts it out as fact. I think most people here have a pretty good idea of what type of food is needed to remain healthy.

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Without having read either article (having issues with browser tonight) my question would be "who foot the bill for the studies?" I think therein lies (pun intended) the answer to your question of which study is right.

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Neither study really gets down to specifying completely what was in the test subjects - or much about the subjects themselves - diets. How much meat did those seven portions of veggies a day subjects eat? Did the test population include diabetics? How many of those less healthy vegetarians really worked to ensure they got a reasonable amount of non-meat protein every day? How many of them ate very low fat - and what kind of fat did they eat? How many of them were like two of the vegetarians in my family - largely subsisting on pasta and bread?

I am with Wally. Interesting overviews that might have a kernel of something interesting that would be worth studying seriously.

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Your other post talked about veg and fruit intake which is not the same thing as the vegetarian diet.

Meat eaters are often healthier than vegetarians due to protein intake, iron, B vitamins and BCAAs. Assuming that the meat source is clean...

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