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Old 11-15-2014, 21:02   #11
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I dunno about this pre diabetes stuff. I've always believed that the drop the numbers to sell more drugs, like they did with statins. I wish I had the numbers some of the pre-diabetes have.

My endo 20 years ago told me, I was diabetic, and always will be. But if I dropped 60 lbs, my sugar's might be normal, but even at that I would always be diabetic. I lost the 60 lbs and he was happy, and with low carbing my numbers dropped for awhile. It was the drug Remeron that hasten my journey to diabetes. I will always believe that . . . but I have scores of ppl in my family that are not obese and diabetic. I would have gotten here eventually, obese or not.

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Old 11-17-2014, 15:18   #12
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Managing blood sugar dysfunction takes daily vigilance and discipline, including diet and exercise. Whether a diagnosed person or physician calls this dysfunction pre-diabetes or diabetes is irrelevant. The daily management is the same and lifelong, isn't it?
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I think that it's useless to rename it until doctors admit that the way to control it is to eat LCHF. And, doctors need to tell patients what to do about it. My doc didn't give me any advice, just proclaimed me prediabetic.

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I call it all the chitz.

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It is one of the most ignored stages of a health condition. I blew it off after being told i was that for years. I blew it off because my doctors said it was no big deal and I just had to cut back. I took control and my averages are in the low to mid 80s with spikes when I go off my diet. I love LCHF- it is an easy lifestyle for me. But, I could never go back to being the pizza/candy/bread ingester I once was. Simply, I would be back WORSE than square one. My body cannot process carbs and craves activity. It was built just for that.
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It is one of the most ignored stages of a health condition. I blew it off after being told i was that for years. I blew it off because my doctors said it was no big deal and I just had to cut back. I took control and my averages are in the low to mid 80s with spikes when I go off my diet. I love LCHF- it is an easy lifestyle for me. But, I could never go back to being the pizza/candy/bread ingester I once was. Simply, I would be back WORSE than square one. My body cannot process carbs and craves activity. It was built just for that.
I totally agree with you! I really wish I took control as soon as I was DX, I am not sure if it would make a difference but I think in my heart that I could now have at least a few more carbs a day! I am really happy that I am here and controlling my BG today. I hope to maintain the carbs that I can eat today. If not it's okay because the LCHF is working and if that is what I get it is better then the alternative.

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I think 'they' call it prediabetes so they don't have to admit the crisis is already upon us. By segregating out lower BG levels they can pretend the tsunami is still on the horizon.

The only meaningful diagnosis is (a) do BG levels go above the point damage accumulates? and (b) why BG levels are dangerously high. And the way to figure that out (C-Peptide, GAD auto-antibody, insulin resistance, whatever) too many doctors refuse test until the body is in a life threatening condition.

On a related note, it seems to me I used to hear a lot about "But that will only lead to diabetes if you have the genetic issue". These days I seem to read a lot about "insulin resistance or metabolic syndrome can, and frequently do, lead to diabetes".

If the underlying problem really is environmental/lifestyle (and genes do not play such a big part in it) then forget tsunami, there is an Everest sized wave about to crash in some countries.

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Sometimes I wonder how the "low fat" wave is going to break. Will the gov't slowly move away from it and claim all along that it wasn't really advocating low fat diets? Or will public opinion take hold and will entire swaths of government employees be fired after it's realized that fat isn't bad for you? I mean, someone is going to have to be the fall guy.

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I think the "low fat wave" will break when food manufacturers figure out how to make a profit from it. Instead of 100 calorie snack packs and low fat everything, they'll be selling us coconut oil treats and gluten free snacks "packed with heart healthy saturated fats-they're good for you!"--LOL!

Truthfully, it's not going to be easy because our economy is so tied to frankenfood manufacture, drug manufacture, and factory farming. The government is not going to jeopardize the economy.

The tide is turning as consumers like us vote with our feet, though. The soft drink manufacturers are seeing their first ever declines in sales. And fast foods, too. Remember the government didn't really move to reduce tobacco use until consumer pressure made it too difficult to ignore the dangers. I've seen tobacco use do a 180 in my lifetime.

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Sign me up for those coconut oil treats....

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