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Old 12-12-2014, 17:23   #11
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Thanks for all of your advice so far. Are generic drugs available like Metformin? If so what works well? Costs of 500mg X2 monthly for Met vs. generic?

I have to pay OOP for all wife's and mine so it could be a consideration.

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Nick,

Our US members will be able to confirm this but it's my understanding that metformin is pretty inexpensive especially compared to some of the other medications. There is no difference in cost between extended release and normal.

There are several generic versions on offer.

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Metformin is one of those $4 Rx at Walmart, and inexpensive at Costco, Target, rite Aid, etc. Shop around.

Met is fine, but I wouldn't try other meds to lower an already fairly low A1C. As mentioned above, the key to CV risk is INSULIN levels. Met helps us control our insulin levels by making our cells more sensitive to our own insulin so we don't need to make more. Other drugs don't work the same way, and insulin is overproduced.

The range is when cv risk beginning to increase, but if you keep your insulin in check through a good diet and perhaps some Met, then you are keeping the risk as low as you can.

Exercise, as little as walking 20 minutes after meals or lifting a small heavy weight slowly, will also improve your insulin levels.

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I discussed the importance to me of trying to get my A1c in the 4% range with my new doc. He is a cardiologist and my only resource. Good on him for recommending metformin.

I took it yesterday and this morning and just tested before dinner at 96! Lowest number I've seen in a long time. I'm thinking the metformin is working a couple of weeks or so ahead of schedule?

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Probably placebo effect, but if in the system, who says it can't start working.

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About 6 months ago, I paid $4 for a 2-month supply of metformin at Safeway (part of the Krueger chain of stores).

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In Canada, the ER version of Metformin costs a TON more than regular. Or at least it did for me.

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Got it at Costco $7 for 30/day, next time I'll get 90 day and save a bit. Just took my 6th dose, expect it may be up to a couple of weeks until I see some results.

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Hi bignick, I find your posts very helpful and I had a similar experience with frustration over the TRUE meters reading low. I started using the Relion Prime and my reading are about 10 points higher overall. Unfortunately my latest a1c was still MUCH higher than my readings would indicate. I am also considering going on Metformin and I'd love to hear how it works for you. I heard it can also lower cholesterol, please share your results as you continue to take it, I hope you get the improvement you're looking for.
Oh yeah, and do you mind sharing the meter you are using now?

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Hi bignick, I find your posts very helpful and I had a similar experience with frustration over the TRUE meters reading low. I started using the Relion Prime and my reading are about 10 points higher overall. Unfortunately my latest a1c was still MUCH higher than my readings would indicate. I am also considering going on Metformin and I'd love to hear how it works for you. I heard it can also lower cholesterol, please share your results as you continue to take it, I hope you get the improvement you're looking for.
Oh yeah, and do you mind sharing the meter you are using now?
Glad to help you any way I can. Your high A1c could be due to spikes you may get and their longevity. My FBG has been inching upward in spite of what I eat. I recently found going too long between eating, intermittent fasting, and skipping a meal will have an effect of raising blood sugar, even when in ketosis.

Exercise will also raise BG for me. I'm finding all the things that I thought were beneficial and healthy heart wise are actually raising my BGL close to that of a full blown diabetic. The results I get from anything I try may be vastly different from other individuals.

Health wise and generally how I feel overall is greatly improved since eating LCHF and the near 20 lb weight loss is wonderful. I am miffed though how in spite of eating LCHF my FBG seems higher now than when I was eating 400-600g carbs per day rather than 25-45g, not to mention a lot fewer calories overall.

For me heart disease is my biggest health worry. The risk goes down as A1c levels are lowered. The double edged sword is, exercise is great for the heart muscle, but an increase in glucose levels is not. There has got to be more to this and I will work on finding it.

As far as the Metformin, I've taken it just over 2 weeks now, kept on LCHF eating and exercising. As of this morning, my FBG average for the week is 120. Week before last it was 122. Is the 2 point drop significant and a result of Metformin? I think it is too early to tell and we will wait another week or two.

Finally I am using 2 different meters, the Relion Prime is my main one that I use daily. It has proven very accurate and within 1 point of what the lab gets when I go in. I have a back up one, AgaMatrix that is supposed to be very accurate and I will double test if I get questionable results.

Sounds like you're on the right track, GL!

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