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Old 07-06-2011, 23:45   #1
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Hello, about a month ago I was diagnosed as type 2, apperently I developed a high tollerance and felt fine with at test readings of 600-650 when i was immediately taken to the hospital. Real fun as my dad just got a meter and was trying it out as being prediabetic so they tested me and tried over an hour and kept getting high marks. The ER staff was amazed i felt nothing, no shaking hands, weakness, etc.. I think one of them said i should have been in a coma from that level but anyways.. (When they flushed my system and got me down to 300 I felt so weak for about a week )

I've been watching my carbs and quantities and servings of everything and i'm down below 200's now.

I'm checking twice a day when i get up and when i eat dinner/supper. My evening is always lower than my morning and about now it's getting down to 120-130 range, but my morning is always near 200? And yesterday I made absolute sure I was taking in less than what my nutrionist said i could eat (carb wise), instead of 60G per meal it was 30 or less grams total. So I got down to 120ish. I then ate nothing out of the ordinary and not much of anything with any carbs just a little 20-30g max of the 60 allowed and then a small snack still under my limit for that one. When I wake up it's back to 200?

The only thing I can deduce as I watched everything i ate, especially as the doctor said i was eating way too many carbs before sleep and that was the reason, that it must be my body converting fat to sugar while i sleep? Did my body develope such a tollerance to that high level that it is trying to get me back up while I sleep?

I'm still tired a lot as not being used to the new sugar levels and taking currently 15 units of insulin at breakfast and dinner. (Measurements taken before meals)

Just trying to understand is all..

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Old 07-07-2011, 00:02   #2
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You're getting it figured out, Beta . . . the fewer carbs the better. The business of higher morning levels is one of those diabetes demons that aggravates a lot of us. For now it's prob'ly best for you to just keep working to get your levels under 140 & stabilized.

How old are you - are they sure you're type 2?




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I'm 30.

My reading for I think it's called AC1 was a 12.0 i believe, but yes they think i'm type 1. I'm on a hard diet and exercise regiment. I was 290 before this all started and have been exercising a lot before this happened and currently about 230 for the past 6 months. The doctors still want me to lose more weight.

I know you said morning number are demons? Do you mean it is normal or abnormal to see a large spike even with strict diet for the morning?

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That was just me describing how darn aggravating it is by calling it a demon. It's known as dawn phenomenon, and it's a common occurrence - I have it myself & many other members here battle it too. It's possible that as you lose weight, it could subside - one member lost more weight & manage to lose the DP too, the lucky pup! Read about it here.

Have they done the test for GAD antibodies to determine which type? If you have antibodies, you'll likely be either type 1.5 or type 1. A test for c-peptides will show how much if any, insulin you're still making on your own.




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DP is diet pill?

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oh dawn phenom.. nevermind sorry

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Welcome, Betaoptimus!

My entry into Diabetesland was very similar to yours. Fun, no?

It'll likely take a few weeks for your numbers to get to a near-normal level and smooth out. And yeah, as your numbers go down, you'll feel weird. Diet changes can also feel weird. But that shall pass!

You're doing a great job with the weight loss, by the way!

Shanny's right ... if they have not tested you for type, you'll probably want 'em to do so. (I had to ask for the testing -- they just had me down as "presumed Type 2.") Knowing your type is important for treatment decisions now and into the future.

Are you on any meds? When my numbers kept stubbornly high, I emailed my doc and we worked out dose adjustments online. That was my first salvo against Dawn Phenomenon.

Glad you found us ... sorry that you had to. You'll find lots of info and support here.

Please visit often and keep us posted!

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Welcome to the Forum. It does take awhile to figure out this D thing. It is a lot of trial and error. You already figured out that the carbs they tell you that you are allowed to eat is way more than we need. Most of us can function on a lot less. I try to about 40 per day and get pretty good results. I am only on metformin right now and I would like to keep it that way for as long as possible. The DP thing is very frustrating. It happens to everyone but since as diabetics we have low levels of insulin, especially in the morning when our hormones signal the liver to convert stored glycogen into glucose we spike. If you had a strong insulin response your insulin would kick in and lower bgs but sometimes your insulin response takes awhile to kick in. The ways to deal with it are Metformin, low carb diet, lots of exercise or long acting insulin.

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I am on the metaformin once a day at 1,000 i think it says mg.. idk it's a tablet. I take a multivitamin with it, some fish oil and a tablet of that curry powder, can't think of it's name at the moment, well not curry powder but the thing in it.. idk it's supposed to help the immune system anyways. I'm on all 4 of those at the moment though. I've been walking for a while so it helps. I just wish the gym i go to was open 24/7.. I work 2nd shift and don't want to get up 3hrs early to go to the gym but would love to go after work if i could. I was told I had to do aerobics 5 days a week for 30min and the other two were strength training to try and combat my problem. If i had sidewalks near me i'd go walking at night but out in the country.

I don't think the doctors wanted to test me because I don't have insurance at the moment (yeah that just makes it worse i know). I know the hospital took lots of vials of blood in the 4-5hrs i was there so maybe they tested me because they told me i was type 2 so I just believe them. Although they wrote on the paperwork 500mg but I ended up with a rx for 1,000? I can't recall if they asked for my weight at the end so probably increased it due to that.

I'm 6ft 5in so 230lbs isn't terrible but could still lose another 10.. i don't think i'll get under 200lbs because i'll be a twig again.

On the exercise note, i do have a couple exercise games for the ps3 so that helps when i can't go outside to walk.

The diabetes thing does help answer why I always was sleeping for 12-14hrs especially on weekends. I didn't feel well after just 8hrs, so maybe since my blood sugar is spiking when i sleep my body was "low" (probably 450 compared to 600) and it kept me asleep till i was back near 600 idk.

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Beta welcome to the forum

Sounds like you've gotten a great start towards figuring things D out!

The morning or DP can be a difficult higher BG level to resolve. Often in my case, a before bed snack can actually lower the BG reading the next morning. For me it is whats called 'Liver dump' my BG goes low overnight and the liver kicks in by releasing some "help"
Last evening worked in the yard and did not have a bedtime snack, this morning BG was 123, lately mine has averaged upper 80's or lower 90's on waking.

I do understand your thinking about walking at night, been full blown summer time here!!! Am sure you will find some great lower carb food suggestions posted and they will help keep the BG lower, again welcome.

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