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Old 01-20-2015, 23:41   #21
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I have had to come to terms with 120 as my ceiling with 100-115 being the norm. Sometimes in the 90s. This is with diet only and no diabetic meds. I'm not willing to reduce carbs more - I'm limited in my fat choices since I can't eat eggs or dairy. I find it difficult to get enough animal fats in my meals short of drinking bacon grease. Now with having to add in some OTC antacids for the hiatal hernia's reflux, my BG has creeped upwards a bit 'cause they also contribute to my carb count.

I guess what I want to say is that it's not all that simple, everyone's situation is different and their body's output of insulin is different. One has to work out what they feel is best for themselves.

I'm not yet to the point where I'm considering insulin, but if treating this GERD and other stomach issues makes BG control difficult, I guess this will be my next step. And if so, then I'm sure I could get my BG down to 80s-90s most of the time.

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Is it actually possible for vegetarians to keep their BG below 100? For vegans it's got to be even harder.

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We have several vegetarians within our membership and they seem to do well. Vegans, not so much, at least by members who've posted that they tried it and it didn't work.




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I'm curious how the vegetarians do it. If there are any reading this thread, would you mind chiming in?

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I`m aiming for a low 4 (75-80) when I wake up in the morning, but has accepted sometimes that impossible due to other illnesses in my body. I accept that sometimes my BG will be to high no matter what I do, but still I keep going on trying to keep my BG low and steady.
I eat a lot, between 3500 and 4000 kcal each day. For me that is 20-25 carbs, 125 protein and 350 gram or more of fat.
I know there is a lot of protein in this diet, but due to my crazy body I need so much (my body "eat " its own muscles ).
I cant eat any dairyproducts at all, nothing with soya, eggwhites,gluten, almonds, nuts, shellfish and some types of deepwater-fish due to allergies. My carbs comes mostly from the vegetables I eat, but some comes from for example coconut-cream/milk.

My body doesnt like shortacting insulin and I can never know how it is working in me, thats why I pretty much dont use it. It is kind of scary to never know when the insulin will hit my body or if it will at all. If its working, at some point all the insulin will hit like a hammer, which leads to a nasty hypo (sometimes LOW on my meter which is below 1,1 (20)) before my BG rise again to the same point it was before the insulin (even if I doesnt eat or drink anything)

When my body is working with some of my other illnesses my BG will be too high in the morning and also during the day. After meal, even if I eat only meat and fat, it will rise and keep high for 3-4 hours.
But even if my body doesnt always play in my team, I will never give up the dream to keep my BG low and steady because for an diabetic thats the most imported thing of all.
I think Bernstein have found something very important and even if we cant always have a perfect BG, we can do our best!

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I have had to come to terms with 120 as my ceiling with 100-115 being the norm. Sometimes in the 90s. This is with diet only and no diabetic meds.
I'm not yet to the point where I'm considering insulin, but if treating this GERD and other stomach issues makes BG control difficult, I guess this will be my next step. And if so, then I'm sure I could get my BG down to 80s-90s most of the time.
VeeJay, if you can tolerate it, Metformin might work just as well. It keeps me in the 80's most of the time. When I do things like skipping doses (say, 2 nights in a row), I see fastings in the 106-range. I also have a <120 desired peak.

From looking at my pre-dx A1c numbers, I've always been in 5.5-ish range, so I think that's just my body's happy place.

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Tracker, I am not a vegetarian, but I do eat A LOT of non-starch veg. Mostly raw, sometimes cooked. I find my bg numbers are usually pretty good. I'll be one year dx in May and haven't used bolus insulin since last summer, once the bg numbers were generally controlled. I agree with Shanny it is possible to keep a low bg with veg. It's eating enough calories and not losing too much weight that can be an issue.

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VeeJay, if you can tolerate it, Metformin might work just as well.
Thinking about it.....

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I'm curious how the vegetarians do it. If there are any reading this thread, would you mind chiming in?
Dump pulses and grains. Go ovo-lacto vegetarian and give preference to dairy products, eggs and nuts. (Homemade nut loaf is fantastic with a herb butter sauce)

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Dump pulses and grains. Go ovo-lacto vegetarian and give preference to dairy products, eggs and nuts. (Homemade nut loaf is fantastic with a herb butter sauce)
Do you have a recipe for that nut loaf? I tried and tried to find recipes online, but they all contain unwanted carbs via grains or carb rich veggies of some sort or other.

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