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Old 04-15-2015, 22:13   #11
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How do you get the HF part of LCHF way of eating?
I save bacon grease, and render beef tallow, and use these fats on just about everything that's hot. If I'm having some LC bread, then I melt as much fat into it as it'll hold. (Many times I break up the bread and stir it into the meat to soak up the juices and fats).

If I could have butter, I'd be putting it on everything, as well.

I eat some of the fat off the edges of meat (this took a bit of getting used to but now I like it fine). I buy fatty cuts of meat, and as high a fat percentage of hamburger as I can find (and any fat that renders out of the fried hamburger, I strain and save for future use).

I smother cold things with mayonnaise or olive oil.

I eat a lot of avocado guacamole and stir in olive oil to up the already good fat content.

Those are a few of my ways. If I could eat eggs... well, that would open up a whole new area of fat gathering.

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I have to chuckle VeeJay, not at you, but at the suggestion you made about soaking up LC bread in the meat to soak up the juices. Recently I made some LC almond bread and a few days later was frying up a pkg of bacon. I also have an OWC who loves bacon and when he saw me soaking the bread in the bacon grease, he started laughing and telling me that we have paper towels for that purpose. Never mind I told him, the bread tastes good this way. I'm just glad that was the last slice of bread, for now, and I didn't have to "share".

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Your diet doesn't look like the culprit. I asked because some people THINK they are doing low carb (which should deplete glycogen stores and excess body fluid that can contribute to HBP) but they aren't really. That's clearly not your problem.

I have significant white coat syndrome myself, and in addition, my health care plan's office assistants are NOT properly trained in taking BP's. They leave the arm hanging down below the level of the heart EVERY time but once, and that once--surprise, surprise--was the ONE time I had a normal blood pressure when seeing a health care provider there. They use electronic BP cuffs which I don't trust, and they are so tight on my arm it's painful--which I'm sure brings my BP up a little too.

So now I REFUSE to let the techs check my BP. If my doctor wants to check it, she's welcome to after I've been sitting in the exam room for a while and feel at ease. And it's normal. Surprise! I check it at home regularly, and it's always around the 1teens over low 70's.

In addition, my health care provider (Kaiser) has started checking pulse and oxygen sats when you go in on routine appointments. I stopped that, too, after I saw that there my pulse rate was running 90 to 100. I check my resting pulse rate regularly (there's an app for that!) and it's in the 60's most of the time.

If I let them talk me into BP meds I'd be fainting all over the place because my usual BP is more on the low side.

It sounds like you DO need the meds, but taking your BP at home regularly can be useful info in dosing. I'm sure they've checked out your kidneys and adrenals?

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The method of taking the blood pressure also makes a difference. At my old doctor's office, they just took it one time, no real procedures. At the new office, they asked me to keep both feet flat on the floor, and to let me arm rest on my lap. Then they take the pressure readings 3 times, with a couple of minutes between each reading. I believe this gives a truer reading.

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Your diet doesn't look like the culprit. I asked because some people THINK they are doing low carb (which should deplete glycogen stores and excess body fluid that can contribute to HBP) but they aren't really. That's clearly not your problem.

I have significant white coat syndrome myself, and in addition, my health care plan's office assistants are NOT properly trained in taking BP's. They leave the arm hanging down below the level of the heart EVERY time but once, and that once--surprise, surprise--was the ONE time I had a normal blood pressure when seeing a health care provider there. They use electronic BP cuffs which I don't trust, and they are so tight on my arm it's painful--which I'm sure brings my BP up a little too.

So now I REFUSE to let the techs check my BP. If my doctor wants to check it, she's welcome to after I've been sitting in the exam room for a while and feel at ease. And it's normal. Surprise! I check it at home regularly, and it's always around the 1teens over low 70's.

In addition, my health care provider (Kaiser) has started checking pulse and oxygen sats when you go in on routine appointments. I stopped that, too, after I saw that there my pulse rate was running 90 to 100. I check my resting pulse rate regularly (there's an app for that!) and it's in the 60's most of the time.

If I let them talk me into BP meds I'd be fainting all over the place because my usual BP is more on the low side.

It sounds like you DO need the meds, but taking your BP at home regularly can be useful info in dosing. I'm sure they've checked out your kidneys and adrenals?
I guess I need to 'get tough' when I'm at the GP office because the techs at her office do the same dang thing that you mentioned. The last time I was there the tech said to me, as she was preparing to take my blood pressure, "now this machine will squeeze your arm off." Sure nuff, it did and I know my BP went sky high.

I just ordered an Omron BP machine so will be taking home measurements at various times as Shanny suggested. I also have an appointment next week with one of the RNs to check my machine against theirs.

And Yes I've had a kidney ultrasound to rule that out.

WHY don't they teach these techs HOW to take BP properly? Who knows how many people are taking medicine that they 'might' not need?

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WHY don't they teach these techs HOW to take BP properly? Who knows how many people are taking medicine that they 'might' not need?
The good thing, for Kaiser--I guess--is that they don't just throw you on meds. You are referred to a "blood pressure clinic" where they have you rest and listen to relaxing music before they take your BP (properly, I would assume) and then if you "fail" that BP reading you have to take a class on BP (everything with Kaiser is a &^%$# class!) and take meds with follow up appointments.

I don't want to be bothered with their processes because their techs can't do their jobs right in the first place.

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