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Old 12-06-2015, 06:08   #1
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Hi All,

So after a shocking start to my "Diabetic Journey" (Not being given much info from doctor or nurse) I am finally starting to take control of this condition.

So i have BG meter but was wondering when i should be testing my bloods? I have got a bit trigger happy so far and want to test my blood all the time But i want to make sure i am doing it the right way so i can fully manager my sugars.

Also, what should my readings be?

I should have got this from my doctor or diabetic nurse but they havent been great!!

On the upside i have been referred to the diabetic clinic at the hospital in teh new year so i hope to get more help :-)

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Hello and welcome. What we need from you now, before we start addressing your questions, is more information . . . if any dietary adjustments have been made, your A1c & other blood levels at diagnosis, whether you were prescribed diabetes meds as well as any other meds you're taking (especially statins, since you're having so much pain all over - textbook side effects of statin usage). Your constant fatigue is likely due to your high blood sugar, especially if it hits harder after meals.

Here are explicit instructions on how to use your meter. We call it eat-to-your-meter, and it's the only way you can chart a course for managing your high blood sugar and controlling your diabetes. In addition to testing around your meals as this outlines, you also need to test as soon as you waken for the day - before you eat, before you shower, before you check your emails. Test your blood sugar as soon as you've finished the potty trip. This is your fasting blood glucose (FBG). And a final test at bedtime is often part of the routine as well. So one test upon wakening; at least three tests at each meal, and a final test before bed - 11 tests a day until you get the hang of this.

In order to keep your meter happy - keep your blood sugar under 140 (7.8) as suggested in the above link - we also suggest embracing a way-of-eating called low-carb/high-fat (LCHF). If you take the time to browse all our boards & threads, you'll find this is the topic of discussion all across the forum. Prof. Schofield outlines a good plan, as long as you ignore his 'whatever day' advice, because as diabetics we don't get to take days off from controlling our blood sugar.

And since you say your medical team is not quite up to snuff, the best place we can direct you is Blood Sugar 101. This site contains so much information you'll spend days prowling around and still find new things each time you visit. Study this site for a few days, and you'll put your medical team to shame with your own knowledge of diabetes - no lie. It is an amazing resource, and you can either take her word for it, or follow the links she provides to all the research and studies she has covered. This site will answer your questions about what should your readings be and so many other questions you never even knew enough to ask!





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Hi Shanny, and THANKS!
That is probably the most information any has actually given me so far. It is really appreciated.

So to answer your questions as best i can, i will list what i know here:
My blood when diagnosed was 21.2 fasting blood sugar. The 3 monthly reading was 101.

I have already started the LCHF diet, and my general readings after meals went from mid 20's to now being between 8 and 9 (Some times 7.5) I wasnt given any dietary advice and when i looked on line i see the NHS suggest something called an "Eat Well Plate" which contains bread, pasta, potato and even sugar. I cut down to the portion it suggested but sugars just kept leaping up. That is when i went to LCHF.

My first appointment i was put on to Metformin - They made me feel sick all day, and so i came off them. They also wanted to put me on insulin on that first appointment which i wasnt happy about. I asked to be given a chance to bring it down naturally first.

I am not on any statins or any other drugs. I am going to try the Metformin again and see if i can get along with them. I would rather not, but it might be needed to nudge it down a bit.

Thank you for all your information.... I am going to be doing a lot of research between now and my appointment

Thanks again

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The side effects of metformin usually subside after the first days - possibly a week or two - and it also takes several weeks for the drug to attain full therapeutic strength in your bloodstream. Plus there is an extended release version of metformin which is easier on your digestive system than the regular version, so your doc could prescribe the extended release version.

I understand them wanting to put you on insulin, because your levels were very high. It looks like you have a grasp of what is needed for this, and I applaud getting your numbers down as much as you have.

Do aim for under 7.8 at all times - even after meals. That is commonly thought to be the level where damage begins to accrue to vital bodily systems, and we're all about preventing future complications of this disease.




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Thanks again,

Its good to have an aim... I have read the link you shared about eating to your meter. It actually makes sense. I feel like i can get a handle on this. Once i have learnt what i can and cant have.

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Your HbA1c at 101 is as Shanny said more than a bit high. For the benefit of some folk on the forum who're not used to the units the UK uses, that converts to a figure of 11.4% when quoted the old fashioned way.

If you're having issues with the metformin, check whether you've been given the Extended Release version or the standard one. The Extended Release is generally easier to cope with but, again as Shanny mentioned, it does take a few days for your body to get used to the action of the drug and to build up to its full therapeutic impact. So, bear with it.

On the plate you've had suggested - In a word NO! The last thing we need is more carbohydrate and that's what that plate is loaded with. So you made the right call - switch to low carb, high fat. And it works but you will find the transition can be tiresome as your body adjusts to the new fuel supply. Your HbA1c suggests that over the last few months your typical blood sugar has been riding at around 15 mmol/L - roughly three times the level a non diabetic should be on. So as you come down you may find yourself suffering from false hypos This happens because our body doesn't "know" what a sensible figure is, just a habit - based on your typical figure. So when it falls, it panics. Please do not feed the panic - you just prolong the agony. Have a look at the link for more information.

Now the bad news. As a type 2 you may find that your doctor is reluctant to prescribe anywhere near enough test strips for your short term needs since he will have the standard book of rules that says "type 2s don't need to test". He is mistaken but be prepared to visit Boots and buy the extras you do need. And you do need them.

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Hey John,
Thanks :-)
I have a lot to learn... But i am confident i will get there!
I did ask for more and wasn't given them.

Thanks for the tips! Its really appreciated!

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Hi MrSweet, welcome to the forum. You've been given the best links to information to help you help yourself. As you've discovered, the medical establishment is not much a source of diabetic friendly guidance. Your future visit to the diabetic clinic will be much the same, insisting you eat way more carbs than you are eating on LCHF. Just smile and nod, if you end up attending, it helps keep the BP down

You may find the Metformin a little more user friendly now that you have reduced the carb consumption, and there is an extended release version that is usually without the same digestive system issues upon initial use of the regular.

I think you have already gotten yourself off to a good start on getting control over your diabetes and will turn around your diabetic symptoms you've posted in other threads.

As others have said, the muscle pains may be due to something else, other medications. Statins are infamous for this, if you are on them.

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Mr. sweet....welcome aboard. Most the important information you need is in the reading suggested above. This knowledge will lay the ground work for you to take control of this disease! I thought I may add some tips on testing your blood, just in case you have not already been informed on some of this.

1. Your devise that actually does the 'stick' should have an adjustment that allows you to adjust the depth of the stick. Experiment and keep it as low as you can which makes the pain less painful. Of course you always have to get enough blood for you meter. I find I can use different depths for different fingers. I only stick my 'pointing finger, thumbs, and little finger as they have the best capillaries on my hands.

2. Only stick on the SIDE of your finger. The tips are very sensitive, by only sticking on the side of the finger tip, you will find you can hardly feel it! Many diabetic nurses and doctors forget to pass this on to new patients.

3. Last but not least, I do not change lances very often, only when they start to hurt, which is usually a week or two. Never use alcohol or any other antiseptic prior to sticking. It can mess up the reading and alcohol will actually harden the skin in time. What you should to is always wash your hand in hot soapy water and dry very well before sticking. This will protect from infections and protect from giving false reading do to hand lotion, oils, etc. giving false readings on your meter.

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Hi mbuster - Thanks for the welcome The links have been great. I cant stop reading. I am well prepared for my appointment in the new year. I was excited at first, thinking it would be a place to get all the info i havent gotten so far.
From what you have said, and other posts on here that wont be the case.

I am so happy i have found this site. God knows what i would be like if i didnt.

Hi div2live - THanks for the info! Its a shame that so far you have given me more information and helpful advice than my GP or diabetic nurse has.

When i first saw the diabetic nurse she showed me how to use the lance. She pulled back the top part, then by accident she pushed the button before she got to my finger (easily done, i always do it) but she then changed the needle to a fresh one. As if by simply being used it was now no good. It was at that point i assumed she was new :-)

I cant thank you all enough for the help you have all offered me. If only i came here right after my diagnoses.

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