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Old 01-13-2012, 19:48   #11
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Wow!!! Thanks for all the great advice from all of you! I'm going to buy new fish oil capsules and be more patient with my cholesterol number. Luckfully, the doctor hasn't contacted me yet, I thought for sure she'd be pushing a statin on me right away.

So I'd like to thank everyone for making me feel a lot better!

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Wow!!! Thanks for all the great advice from all of you! I'm going to buy new fish oil capsules and be more patient with my cholesterol number. Luckfully, the doctor hasn't contacted me yet, I thought for sure she'd be pushing a statin on me right away.

So I'd like to thank everyone for making me feel a lot better!
zinza,

This is a personal opinion only - but I would resist the offer of a statin.

The evidence supporting total cholesterol as a cause of heart disease is suspect and is largely based on observational studies rather than clinical trials. There is more evidence supporting an association with high triglicerides (note again - not necessarily a causative effect).

You will address the triglicerides in particular (and the cholesterol as a whole) by your adherence to the LCHF diet. You don't need to cope with the side effects of a statin.

Just my opinion - and I'm not a doctor!

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I totally agree with John here. I treat chl in general as an indicator that something with in your body is, has, not been functioning properly. Your body makes chl for a purpose, hormones, repairs, etc. So if you are making more chl than what is needed, something is causing this imbalance.

My doc had me drinking 45 grams of fish oil (15 grams 3 times a day) along with 5-6 grams of L-Carnitine. It was a 2 month therapy to get your body to burn the excess chl it has stored up. Any longer you risk lowering your immune system. The result for me was, I dropped my total Chl from 200 to 150, my trigs went from 90 to 38, my HDL went from 31 to 35 still low, my LDL remained unchanged at 100. I was already doing a low carb diet so I had a yrs worth of improvement to begin with.

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Wow, MCS and John...both very interesting. My last cholesterol was a 159, however I do take a statin. I'm wondering if perhaps I should begin to taper off on that now. I will broach this with the cardio doc at next appt in March. Thanks for giving me something to talk to him about!

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Don't be surprised if your cardio doc doesn't agree with the position many of us have on statins. A friend of mine (quintuple bypass friend) sees a noted cardiologist in our area who said he loves statins so much that he thought "they should be put in the water supply."

I'm not making this up.

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After my quad by-pass, the first thing the doc put me on was, Plavix, Lipitor, Beta Blocker, and Lisinopril. I was the walking dead. I don't take any of them any more except for the Lisinopril.



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Don't be surprised if your cardio doc doesn't agree with the position many of us have on statins. A friend of mine (quintuple bypass friend) sees a noted cardiologist in our area who said he loves statins so much that he thought "they should be put in the water supply."

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I agree that's the attitude of many doctors. The drug companies have done a wonderful selling job here.

I don't for a moment suggest that statins are not effective in reducing cholesterol albeit with some interesting side effects for the patients in the process.

What I do have an issue with is the effectiveness of this strategy in reducing the risk of heart disease.

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My friend with the quintuple bypass who is now on statins (but wasn't before the heart surgery), did not have high cholesterol before the cardiac event.

So - high cholesterol did not cause the heart attack or need for bypasses, but one is expected to believe uber-low cholesterol will prevent a repeat event.

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The Cholesterol Myths
The footnote on the page is interesting
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Or more here --
http://www.businessweek.com/print/ma...8052092994.htm

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