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Old 09-15-2016, 18:30   #1
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Default Odd Fasting Readings

Something weird has cropped up with my fasting early morning readings.

For the most part they had been in the high 90s to low 100teens but here over the last couple of days I've gotten some surprising results.

Sunday 1 hour after dinner 137
Monday morning 138
Monday 1 hour after dinner 125
Tuesday morning 118
Tuesday 1 hour after dinner 118
Wednesday morning 133
Wednesday 1 hour after dinner (No test. Saving strips. Ate a normal very low carb dinner)
Thursday morning 123

Unfortunately I'm currently out of strips. Should have some more tomorrow.

Any ideas what could be causing the morning readings to spike higher than the post meal reading? I don't eat anything after dinner. I thought I read somewhere that injuries or sickness could cause it. I'm not sick but am nursing a bit of back pain. Can't get to the chiro until tomorrow morning.

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couple possibilities come to mind. 1) stress, perhaps related to your back pain and 2) different times of testing in the morning from usual, giving more time for DP.

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Weekend morning tests are usually later but Monday through Friday morning tests are all around 5:40 am give or take only a minute or two.

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Seems it could be dawn Phenomom. Your Dinner PP numbers are a bit high.

What are you eating at dinner? What medications are you taking.

If you morning FBG is higher in the weekend versus during the week because you get up later, I would suspect dawn Phenomom as the cause.

For me, I get up at 5am during the week, but on the weekend I'll get up between 6:30 and 7:30 and my FBG can be 20-30 points higher due to dawn Phenomom.

I think you might want to get your dinner PP down. Are you measuring @ 2 hours PP?

One other thing could be you are eating too much protein and not enough fat at dinner.

Try getting up an hour earlier to see if it's DP or your just not going down from dinner and staying high all night. Dawn Phenomom is one thing, and you may only be getting a short-term spike, but if your BG is staying up all night, that's not good at all.

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Seems it could be dawn Phenomom. Your Dinner PP numbers are a bit high.

What are you eating at dinner? What medications are you taking.
I'm taking 1000 mg a day of Metformin and 10 mg a day of Atorvastatin.

Cant remember exactly what I had for dinner those nights but it is usually some meat with salad with shredded cheddar on top and a full fat salad dressing such as blue cheese.

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I think you might want to get your dinner PP down. Are you measuring @ 2 hours PP?
PP numbers are at 1 hour.

Today and yesterday morning was 116.

I think I might test at bedtime a couple of times to confirm whether it is going up after bedtime/before waking or just still in the process of coming down.

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I'm taking 1000 mg a day of Metformin and 10 mg a day of Atorvastatin.

Cant remember exactly what I had for dinner those nights but it is usually some meat with salad with shredded cheddar on top and a full fat salad dressing such as blue cheese.



PP numbers are at 1 hour.

Today and yesterday morning was 116.

I think I might test at bedtime a couple of times to confirm whether it is going up after bedtime/before waking or just still in the process of coming down.

Try testing just before eating, then at 1 hour, and then again at 2 hours. If you are still higher than what you want at 2 hours, test again before going to bed.

Then test as soon as you wake up at your earliest time (not the weekend). If you think it's DP (your higher than your 2hour before bed reading), then try getting up an hour earlier to see if you can catch the pre-DP raise.

I was having big issues with my morning FBG numbers (even before DP kicked in). What I did was to reduce my protein by 50% and significantly increase fats (ate a whole avocado). Those two things reduced my morning FBG by 20-30 points. I recently learned that up to 50% of protein can convert to glucose, and since reducing protein and increasing fat I have seen a remarkable difference.

The other two things I have done, is I take 2500 mg of metformin plus I added Berberine. That really lowered by FBG and PP numbers overall. Berberine did not stop the DP, but everything else was very responsive. I actually started the Berberine before reducing protein. Reducing the protein improved my FBG even more.

But, if your go to bed numbers are high, you'll need to look at your before dinner number, and maybe your lunch numbers to get those down. I eat between 20-30 grams of carbs a day, with the highest carb load being 10 grams for breakfast. I found I needed the carb load in the morning to stimulate my initial insulin release to address the DP issue.

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I'm taking 1000 mg a day of Metformin and 10 mg a day of Atorvastatin.

Cant remember exactly what I had for dinner those nights but it is usually some meat with salad with shredded cheddar on top and a full fat salad dressing such as blue cheese.



PP numbers are at 1 hour.

Today and yesterday morning was 116.

I think I might test at bedtime a couple of times to confirm whether it is going up after bedtime/before waking or just still in the process of coming down.
When do you take your Atorvastatin and metformin? Do you take anything else? You may want to talk to your DR about increasing the metformin?

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When do you take your Atorvastatin and metformin? Do you take anything else? You may want to talk to your DR about increasing the metformin?
I take the Metformin about 15 minutes before breakfast and dinner.

I take the Atorvastatin right before bed.

I do not take anything else.

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Okay so

last night 1 hour after dinner 7:28 pm -- 106
at bedtime 10:09 pm -- 112
this morning at 5:40 am -- 123

I did not have anything to eat after dinner.

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Okay so

last night 1 hour after dinner 7:28 pm -- 106
at bedtime 10:09 pm -- 112
this morning at 5:40 am -- 123

I did not have anything to eat after dinner.
A 11pt rise over night is quite reasonable. What with meter accuracy requirements (within 10% over 100), it really isn't something that I personally would worry much about.

I'm not saying 123 is an awesome fasting number, but in order to get your fasting down, you'd want to work on your pre-bedtime number. Then if you are seeing a rise of say 20+ points, then look into how to attack the morning number.

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