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Old 10-22-2016, 19:24   #11
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Ummmm You do use the side of your finger tips, rite... less nerves less pain, on the side of fingers.
I do use the sides of my fingertips. Pain is not the issue. Stopping what I'm doing (I'm a single mom and college student - always behind schedule and frequently overwhelmed), washing my hands, drying my hands, getting the stuff out, testing, putting the stuff away. It's troublesome. I know it's important, but if I eat a zero or very low carb meal and that will allow me to not test, that'd be great

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I only wash my hands if I get a weird (high) result and want to retest; therefore I don't have to dry my hands. I never put ANYTHING away, so I don't have to take anything out. These are a few of the many blessings of a slovenly life style. The disadvantage is that I drive my wife nuts.

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I only wash my hands if I get a weird (high) result and want to retest; therefore I don't have to dry my hands. I never put ANYTHING away, so I don't have to take anything out. These are a few of the many blessings of a slovenly life style. The disadvantage is that I drive my wife nuts.
My kids and I have issues with putting things away. We spend an inordinate amount of time looking for things.

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Zero carb meal would be difficult to come by. But 3-5 grams carbs would be pretty close.

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Zero carb meal would be difficult to come by. But 3-5 grams carbs would be pretty close.
I know you don't eat dairy but you mentioned that cheese has some carbs. If the label says 0, I'm guessing that's because there's less than 1 gram per serving. But if I eat 5 servings I'm getting some carbs, right? How can I find out how many for real?

Also, you've mentioned having to limit nuts. May I ask why? I think I'm seeing a trend that when I eat nuts I my weight-loss stalls. I don't understand why they're a problem even when I'm not eating a lot of calories and very low-carb. What's the deal with nuts?!

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If one does not eat and there is no liver dump, where does the glucose come from? Is glucose (or compounds covertible to glucose) stored in cells somehow? I read something about it, but have forgotten.
Glucose stored in cells is in the form of glycogen. Liver cells can convert it back to glucose and release it back into the bloodstream, muscle cells also store as glycogen, but it stays in the cell for its own use as needed, other cells ??

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I haven't read cheese labels in a long time. I didn't think there were any cheeses that were zero carbs, but, as you say, even if it's .99g carbs, the label can legally read zero. You could try contacting the manufacturer/producer and ask. You may or may not get an answer. What most of us do when not sure is to count .5 or 1g for every serving of something that's listed on the label as 0g.

Nuts have carbs. Almonds, which so much of the LC baked goodies are made of, is 5.5g carbs per oz. with 3.4 g fiber (net 2.2). Pecans (net 1.2) and walnuts (net 2.0) and macadamias (net 1.4).

I think its the added carbs to my total that nuts bring to the table. They are NOT a free food, and its really easy to over-estimate the serving (absolutely have to use a scale for nuts). I have found that almonds especially will allow weight gain. Right now I'm about 5-8 lbs over the max of what I'd like to weigh (although well below where I started from). I just can't seem to lose that last bit of weight. But I continue to eat too many nuts!!!

Re: lowering calories. In reality restricting calories isn't all that helpful for weight loss. What would be more helpful is to eat fatty foods until satisfied, irregardless of the calories, but employing moderate portions. This is one of my problems areas because I don't feel full right away - takes 1/2 to almost an hour to really feel the effect of a meal in my stomach, so I'm tempted to continue eating after I should have stopped and waited a bit.

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I'm going to start counting 1g of carb for each serving of cheese. Better to overestimate than to underestimate.
I try not to pay attention to calories, but MyFitnessPal is the tracker that I use and it tracks calories as well as macros. I try to avert my eyes but . . . same with getting on the scale every day. I know better. But it's there and I lack self-discipline.

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My kids and I have issues with putting things away. We spend an inordinate amount of time looking for things.
Time you could be using testing your blood sugar?

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Specifically, is it or is it not advisable to spread carbo intake EVENLY through the day. It'd be nice to have a clear, non-fascinating answer to that one!
My thinking is that every time you eat something, it is an event unto itself. That's why learning just how many carbs you can eat at one time is important. I don't think it works well to make up a "deficit" from one meal by increasing carbs at another one. Some people have found that they need to keep breakfast as close to zero as they can because they are more carb-sensitive in the morning. Apparently insulin resistance isn't static and can be more of a problem earlier in the day.

Don't know if this is the clear, non complicated answer you're looking for. I'll fall back to the "everyone is different" mantra, which is so very true.

Added: I just remembered that you said you are testing only one meal and then random times. To learn your carb limit for breakfast, as opposed to other meals, you might want to test around breakfast for a while to determine your carb limit for that. Your random times might be 1hr pp for other meals.

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