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Old 03-23-2017, 21:30   #11
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Hi 123, your food list looks fairly low carb with the exception of the carrot. Three baby carrots would always jump my BG up higher than I want to go so the only carrot I eat now is what may be in a store bought salad mix.

I think you have a good doctor, you may want to ask her about being tested for the possibility of being LADA, type 1.5, many LADA types are originally misdiagnosed as type 2.

Fasting numbers are often the last to show signs of diabetes as well as the last to come back in line when you get control. Don't judge LCHF's success on fasting numbers this early in the game. My FBG took months to come down.

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Thank you everyone for all your suggestions I really truly appreciate it. My previous doctor it was pills but in her defense I had low numbers six seven eight worst I ever saw with 10. But that's all it was pills, there was a Paleo suggestion but when I saw the diet obviously that's a hard one to swallow no pun intended. Eating before bed, that's a question having a snack I thought was bad before bed. I've always been brought up old school I realize a lot of that is being punked today but eating after 7 p.m. was always a No-No in almost every diet. Does that not help with adding more sugar to your bloodstream while you sleep and you have no way of Burning It Off? I have only been counting my meter, low numbers 3 to 7 good, anything over 7.. I also was shocked to hear your suggestion on carrots being high in carbs. I use Atkins low-carb chart not the diet just the chart. On that chart carrots read as one medium raw is 4.2 carbs. Also noticed that depending where you look on the Web, different charts will have different numbers but the majority are close enough by one or two carbs. In my case that could be huge on an overall day count but yep pick one and you run with it. I am scared of my condition now more than ever to be in the twenties is not good I realize it. The only affects I feel are my right foot feels like it is dying apparently this cannot be fixed anymore only stopped at where it is. I am not overweight I only weigh 204 pounds at 5'10", but that could be my BMI naturally I don't know yet. I am also recently told that I have protein in my kidneys so that could be failing. I am 51 years old and this scares the **** out of me. My grandfather died of cancer but everything started with type 2 diabetes four heart attacks, a triple bypass, blocked veins in the legs, skin conditions, then cancer in the intestines, and finally cancer in the liver. My present Doctor Who has me on the lchf diet has told me I may not make retirement if I don't do something now.

I am truly great full I found you guys. I am a very private person and for me to have opened up like this so soon to essentially strangers is a big deal for me. Any help is truly appreciated!!!

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123...opening up about things regarding your health is very important at this point. You obviously, clearly understand the risks associated with diabetes. That alone puts you ahead of many, who unfortunately, live in denial.

One thing about the LCHF life style is... that I do not consider it a "DIET"!

I frequently eat fried eggs and bacon for breakfast. Then at lunch I eat a few slices of hard cheese, a few slices of salami with Mayo, a slice of dill pickle... all rolled up in lettuse wraps...my lunch sandwich! Then for dinner a glass of red wine, steak, fresh vegetables with butter on top! OR...Sometimes I go down to the local fast food drive up and order a double hamburger w/pickles, onion, and lettuce... all smothered in mustard. I take it home, throw away the bun, and using a knife and fork have a good meal.....etc. etc.

Does that sound like a "diet" to you? My point is LCHF is more about a change in what we eat, not eating less for me that realization made this transition, very easy.....heck I eat more now than I did before LCHF, I am never hungry....and top it all off with healthy controlled blood sugar and I have lost 50lbs....like I say, it is magic, not a diet!

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Just responding to a few of your comments:

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I use Atkins low-carb chart
I started out low-carbing with Atkins Induction/Phase I. It is a 30g or less plan. (Carrots are not on this Induction plan, nor are any other root vegetables). Other than increasing fats, I haven't strayed very far from this.

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...eating after 7 p.m. was always a No-No in almost every diet. Does that not help with adding more sugar to your bloodstream while you sleep?
Depends on what you are eating for your snack. If it contains few or no carbs, then BG isn't going to be raised. A good snack would be cheese (no cracker), a slice of salami - something fatty with a little protein.

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I am scared of my condition now more than ever to be in the twenties is not good I realize it. The only affects I feel are my right foot feels like it is dying apparently this cannot be fixed anymore only stopped at where it is.
Fear is a great motivator, but I want to give you some hope also. There have been members here who had the beginnings of diabetic neuropathy. They learned that when BG levels are over 7.8(140) that is when nerve and organ damage is happening. They also found that if they were diligent with LCHF and got their BG well below that number (6.7/120) consistently for a period of time (weeks/months) much of their symptoms were reduced. Some completely. But most reported improvement.

A comment about diets in general:

Most weight-loss diets are low in fat and low in calories, and leave people feeling hungry all the time. And they say you have to exercise as well. When one is eating LCHF, one gets energy from metabolized fats (not carbs/glucose). That's why one can eat until satisfied and not be hungry. (We have been so brainwashed about fats being evil, it is difficult at first to make the mental switch to looking at bacon and butter as good for you!)

For myself, I maintain low and stable BG through diet only. Due to physical problems I cannot exercise, and even though I think it is a healthy thing to do it isn't essential for managing blood sugar, or weight.

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One thing about the LCHF life style is... that I do not consider it a "DIET"!
....like I say, it is magic, not a diet!
Hey thank you for your feedback. I use the word Diet as its definition:

1.
the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats.
"a vegetarian diet"
synonyms: selection of food, food, foodstuffs; More
2.
a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons.
"I'm going on a diet

All good tho, I know what you mean.

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Hey thank you for your feedback. I use the word Diet as its definition:

1.
the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats.
"a vegetarian diet"
synonyms: selection of food, food, foodstuffs; More
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a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons.
"I'm going on a diet

All good tho, I know what you mean.
Well as I see it we both are "half correct" depending on #1 or #2 above...

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This is why I try to say "way of eating" rather than diet.

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Also, remind yourself that you are not a robot. As a biological unit, you will get frustratingly confusing results on a regular basis.

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Where does the 140 for damage to your body come from?

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Where does the 140 for damage to your body come from?
Jenny Ruhl presents studies about this in her article here Research Connecting Organ Damage with Blood Sugar Level


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Research Connecting Organ Damage with Blood Sugar Level
The studies you will read below, some of which are not cited in the AACE guidelines, make a cogent case that post-meal blood sugars of 140 mg/dl (7.8 mmol/L) and higher and fasting blood sugars over 100 mg/dl (5.6 mmol/L) when found in association with those higher than normal post-meal blood sugars, cause both permanent organ damage and the worsening of diabetes. Some of this data also suggests that maintaining an A1c of 5.7% to 6% is much safer for people with diabetes who wish to avoid developing diabetic complications.

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