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Old 04-08-2017, 18:26   #11
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I have no problem adding fat, but, I don't just want to lose weight, I want to build muscle as well.

How is that possible with so little protein?

The general rule is 1G of protein per pound of body weight, or, up to 1.5G for "cutting" and "losing" fat.
building muscle and cutting while in ketosis is a bit challenging. I tried it for a while and I couldnt keep it up. I was so hungry all the time and couldnt keep up with all the food but I have heard people do it.

its going to be a matter of playing with your macros until you find that sweet spot between fat and protein

if you find what works, please share it because I would be interested myself because I have not found it yet.

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@hftmrock, thank you for responding, I really appreciate it. I have been feeling great for the past few months and yesterday after this whole doctor debacle, I felt like absolute crap. So this is all very helpful.

So I've been thinking a lot about a comment the NP made to me on the phone before the endocrinologist snatched the phone from her and went off on me about carbohydrates. I asked her why ketones are bad with a normal blood sugar and she said; "Because if you drop to low your body has no glycogen storage for you to recover." and then the phone was taken from her. She might have said "liver" and not "body", I don't remember. She definitely said "drop low" though, which confused me because I was always told to check for ketones when my number(s) were high, and not low.

Then I started thinking about this. Say I stick with this lifestyle and I'm doing well but often have ketones. Perhaps "moderate". So now my blood glucose is good but I have ketones. Now say I eat something I shouldn't and that causes my blood glucose to rise. Now I have high blood sugar and ketones, no? Isn't that the "deadly" combination?

I watched that video, a few times. I've followed her on Facebook as well and found a lot of cool resources through her. Thanks for that link!

My C-PEPTIDE is a .5, so I'm producing very little insulin. She re-tested yesterday, so I'll know at the end of the week if anything changed. She said it's impossible to change and that number will stay the same or go lower.

I went to the DAOM today, but she was so focused on acupuncture, it wasn't what I expected. She does not specialize in diabetes management or planning like I expected. I had acupuncture, it was interesting, but, I don't know. I was a little confused by the whole thing. She's telling me to eat cucumbers, tofu, squash, and quinoa. When I looked up quinoa, it was loaded with carbohydrates.

I have to do what you said. I have to find an endocrinologist that understands all of this and doesn't want to simply load me up with insulin. It would be really great to have a supportive doctor for once.

So with you living such a low-carbohydrate lifestyle, do you need insulin to "survive"? You likely don't need a bolus much because of your lifestyle, but how about long-acting?

I blew up from insulin, but, I was eating like crap and taking 70-units daily. Should I need to go back to insulin to survive but still stick with the low-carbohydrate, at what point does insulin cause you to gain weight? Say I need the basal rate only and it's 15-units daily, with a bolus here and there, few units daily. Will that cause one to gain weight and blow up?

You know, my gripe was never about insulin and I explained that to my doctor. It was about the pump, I just wanted to get off the pump. I wanted Lantus for my long-acting and nothing for food going low-carbohydrate. However, with Lantus I used to go low all the time, even on 20-units, so I figured I would start with Metformin.

Now I'm reading that Metformin simply isn't for T-1 diabetics. She prescribed me 1500MG daily but told me to start with 500MG for the first two weeks.

Today is my first official day without my pump, no insulin at all, and on Metformin. I started with 500MG and my stomach is dancing.

My numbers are not so great today. I woke up at 4:30AM at 138, had my usual protein shake around 6:45AM but adding milk for some fat, which was 15G of carbohydrates. I was still stable at ~140 at this point. About an hour later I hit 188 and stood that way for a few hours. At 10:45AM I finally started going down and hit a 148, all without insulin. I did not take my first dose of Metformin until 11AM, so that likely won't start working right away.

I ate Shrimp Fra Diavolo for lunch at 12:28 with a 161 reading. I didn't eat all the sauce because I was afraid of the possible carbohydrates from it. Now at 1:43 I am a 142; nearly 20 lower, without insulin.

I'm a bit nervous about sleeping with no insulin in my system. I'm afraid that my blood glucose rises for whatever reason and with ketones there, having some issue(s).


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while the journey is VERY confusing... I am very proud of you.

Here is the best thing I can say

"You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." The term redpill refers to a human that is aware of the true nature of the Matrix

you just took the red pill

First - YES you should have ketones in your urine when you are in ketosis (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH KETOACIDOSIS) . You body is burning fat instead of carbs for energy. Because of this your body is producing ketones and its 100% normal and 100% healthy. I am fully keto adapted and yes I produce ketones. a side affect of this is WEIGHT LOSS!!

you are doing everything right and the only suggestion I have is to change doctors to one that understands keto.

PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO!! IT WILL CONFIRM THINGS FOR YOU

https://youtu.be/da1vvigy5tQ


I think you are doing fantastic... You are in ketosis and that is great since you were on all that insulin and now you are seeing the reality that doctors just take what they were told years ago and dont think about anything that might go against their norm. The ADA is WRONG and you can live without carbohydrates

you are allergic to carbs and if your pancreas can produce some insulin (it sounds like it can) then you can live without carbs AND without insulin.

I will help you with any questions or concerns you have. I do think you MUST see a doctor but not the clowns... errr... professionals you are currently seeing. It will take time but you have to see a doctor that understands this.

Congrats on waking up to reality. its hard.


now wait until we tell you to eat more fat if you want to lose weight and lower cholesterol

~hftmrock

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@hftmrock:

So can you remain in ketosis but with a higher percentage of protein compared to fat? If I have ketones now, I'm in ketosis? If that's the case, I am doing so with about 50% of my calories coming from protein, 30% from fat and 20% from carbohydrates.

I do plan to increase the fat and lower the carbohydrates a bit.

Or, is to much protein and ketones a dangerous combination?



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building muscle and cutting while in ketosis is a bit challenging. I tried it for a while and I couldnt keep it up. I was so hungry all the time and couldnt keep up with all the food but I have heard people do it.

its going to be a matter of playing with your macros until you find that sweet spot between fat and protein

if you find what works, please share it because I would be interested myself because I have not found it yet.

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thank you for responding, I really appreciate it. I have been feeling great for the past few months and yesterday after this whole doctor debacle, I felt like absolute crap. So this is all very helpful.

we are here to advise from our experiences and the lessons we learned. I'm glad things are getting better for you and I KNOW they will continue to do better

So I've been thinking a lot about a comment the NP made to me on the phone before the endocrinologist snatched the phone from her and went off on me about carbohydrates. I asked her why ketones are bad with a normal blood sugar and she said; "Because if you drop to low your body has no glycogen storage for you to recover." and then the phone was taken from her. She might have said "liver" and not "body", I don't remember. She definitely said "drop low" though, which confused me because I was always told to check for ketones when my number(s) were high, and not low.

Then I started thinking about this. Say I stick with this lifestyle and I'm doing well but often have ketones. Perhaps "moderate". So now my blood glucose is good but I have ketones. Now say I eat something I shouldn't and that causes my blood glucose to rise. Now I have high blood sugar and ketones, no? Isn't that the "deadly" combination?

I dont think thats a problem. Right now you are in ketosis (at least it sounds like that) and your body is burning fat for fuel instead of carbs. If you suddenly eat something that will spike your BG its very temporary and the numbers will go back down and it will probably kick you out of ketosis and the ketones will stop. Your body is very smart and adaptive. Your body switched to burning fat for energy because you were no longer eating enough carbohydrates. in doing that, ketones are produced to help give your body energy. If you eat carbs again and your body gets glucose, your body will switch to burning carbs for energy and the ketones will stop.


I watched that video, a few times. I've followed her on Facebook as well and found a lot of cool resources through her. Thanks for that link!

My C-PEPTIDE is a .5, so I'm producing very little insulin. She re-tested yesterday, so I'll know at the end of the week if anything changed. She said it's impossible to change and that number will stay the same or go lower.

what measurement is this.. here is what I found online

The reference range of C-peptide is 0.8-3.1 ng/mL (conventional units), or 0.26-1.03 nmol/L

in any case... .5 doesnt sound horribly low and please remember that if you were taking insulin, your body realizes and decides not to produce as much so it will be interesting measuring it when you are in ketosis. it might have raised a little to possibly normal number (might not but it might rise). You also dont need as much insulin if you are keto adapted.

I just saw this... are you sure that the number (.5) is that bad?

What Are Normal C-Peptide Levels?

Per the NIH, 0.5 to 2.0 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL) are considered normal amounts of c-peptide in the blood stream upon eating and your pancreas releasing insulin to cover those carbohydrates.


I went to the DAOM today, but she was so focused on acupuncture, it wasn't what I expected. She does not specialize in diabetes management or planning like I expected. I had acupuncture, it was interesting, but, I don't know. I was a little confused by the whole thing. She's telling me to eat cucumbers, tofu, squash, and quinoa. When I looked up quinoa, it was loaded with carbohydrates.

Quinoa is high and I dont eat it because of it. You are going to have to eat to your meter. if you eat something that goes high and you identify what it is, you have the option of not eating it anymore.

I have to do what you said. I have to find an endocrinologist that understands all of this and doesn't want to simply load me up with insulin. It would be really great to have a supportive doctor for once.

So with you living such a low-carbohydrate lifestyle, do you need insulin to "survive"? You likely don't need a bolus much because of your lifestyle, but how about long-acting?

you need insulin. But in ketosis, you don't need much. So if you are ketosis, the amount you are making might be enough for you. this needs to be monitored and tweaked. keep looking for Endo's with knowledge of ketosis. they are rare but they are out there. even a nutritionalist if they know about keto.


I blew up from insulin, but, I was eating like crap and taking 70-units daily. Should I need to go back to insulin to survive but still stick with the low-carbohydrate, at what point does insulin cause you to gain weight? Say I need the basal rate only and it's 15-units daily, with a bolus here and there, few units daily. Will that cause one to gain weight and blow up?

I am not on any medication and I am type 2 so hopefully others might be able to answer this. I want to only let you know my observations from experience


My numbers are not so great today. I woke up at 4:30AM at 138, had my usual protein shake around 6:45AM but adding milk for some fat, which was 15G of carbohydrates. I was still stable at ~140 at this point. About an hour later I hit 188 and stood that way for a few hours. At 10:45AM I finally started going down and hit a 148, all without insulin. I did not take my first dose of Metformin until 11AM, so that likely won't start working right away.

use heavy whipping cream instead of milk. MUCH lower carbs. Also find no carb / low carb protein powders if you havent. I have that.

I ate Shrimp Fra Diavolo for lunch at 12:28 with a 161 reading. I didn't eat all the sauce because I was afraid of the possible carbohydrates from it. Now at 1:43 I am a 142; nearly 20 lower, without insulin.

not bad on how your body reacted. you dont know whats in it so its harder.

I'm a bit nervous about sleeping with no insulin in my system. I'm afraid that my blood glucose rises for whatever reason and with ketones there, having some issue(s)

you dont have to worry, your body will stop producing ketones if you are getting glucose. but where would your body get the excess glucose? Metformin helps drive out blood glucose and you are using insulin. and please remember the lower you reduce carbs the less there is glucose in your system. your body typically cant have too high blood glucose if your not eating any/much carbs. If I was you (I am a paranoid person) I would set an alarm at least once in the middle on the night to test until you are comfortable and until you find a doctor that knows about keto

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!! ITS HARD AND CONFUSING BUT SERIOUSLY IS WORTH IT!

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@hftmrock:

So can you remain in ketosis but with a higher percentage of protein compared to fat? If I have ketones now, I'm in ketosis? If that's the case, I am doing so with about 50% of my calories coming from protein, 30% from fat and 20% from carbohydrates.

I do plan to increase the fat and lower the carbohydrates a bit.

Or, is to much protein and ketones a dangerous combination?
Protein can turn into glucose so I think it can be challenging to keep that much protein but it might depend on each person. I would youtube some videos that are bodybuilding in keto. they will be informative. There is debate on if too much protein will kick you out of ketosis

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https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb lists foods for LCHF

""You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever the doctors want you to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." "

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I have seen this youtuber a lot and I like him a lot. It might be worth watching some of his videos - goody beats


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Wow. You look like a completely different person. You must feel GREAT. That is quite an accomplishment!

KETOSIS

I must be in ketosis. I have gone through thirty strips since last night and the only time I did not have ketones was when I first woke up this morning. Every test since then has show either "trace" or "small". I have not hit "moderate" yet. Even last night I don't think I hit "moderate", the color matched both "moderate" and "small", so I'm guessing I was a 30.

C-PEPTIDE ISSUE

So my paperwork shows "Reference Range" is 0.9-7.1 and I was a 0.578. Keep in mind, this is from January of 2016, which is the batch of test results that led to my T-1 diagnosis. I was only on Lantus at this point, about 20-units once daily. This is when I was still a T-2 and this result is what made me a T-1. Well, this result and the GAD65. My GAD 65 was >250.0! I might have been on 30-units of Lantus daily, I can't remember. It was either 20 or 30.

I don't know if the .578 is bad, that's what my NP tells me so I just listened to her. I never researched it to be honest. I just read what you posted about "Normal C-Peptide Levels" and that 0.5 is normal if I just ate. I don't remember the details of the test, not sure if I ate. I went for the test early in the morning and if they told me not to eat, they would have said not to eat in the morning. But, the night before I likely ate five donuts, so who knows if I was still releasing insulin to cover for that. It would have only been 12-hours later.

My test from yesterday I should have back soon and I had ketones when the test was taken. I'm curious on the results too.

INSULIN TO SURVIVE

So you said "you need insulin. But in ketosis, you don't need much. So if you are ketosis, the amount you are making might be enough for you.".

So how do I know if the amount I'm making is NOT enough for me? Is it as simple as I live this lifestyle and things are going good but one day suddenly my numbers rise, which means what I'm making is no longer enough and at that point I will have to resume taking insulin? Is it that "simple"?

Not enough insulin, your blood glucose rises, you need more insulin. Right now, numbers stable without, so A-OK?

OTHER

I will try the heavy whipping cream, or maybe light whipping cream. I still want protein to be 50% of my caloric intake and I know or heard that excess protein will turn into carbohydrates. But, so far, I consume a minimum of 160G of protein daily and it doesn't raise my numbers at all. Not only is it protein but my protein shake consists of 6G of carbohydrates!

NIGHT

You said "but where would your body get the excess glucose? Metformin helps drive out blood glucose and you are using insulin.", but, I stopped insulin. I took my pump off. So my bolus stopped about two weeks ago, my basal was reduced to 15-units daily. Now I'm done with that and on Metformin.

I already do exactly what you said. I have two to three alarms set for the middle-of-the-night and I wake up to check my number. I was so used to the CGM, I have been doing this for a few weeks since I stopped using it.

So you're thinking that if my numbers naturally rise when I'm sleeping then I'm producing glucose, which should make the ketones go away?

That makes me feel better! I'll still wake up to check and confirm for a few weeks, can't hurt.

I reached the bottom of the topic and see your picture again. Really, unbelievable!

Thank you again for all the back-and-forth!


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thank you for responding, I really appreciate it. I have been feeling great for the past few months and yesterday after this whole doctor debacle, I felt like absolute crap. So this is all very helpful.

we are here to advise from our experiences and the lessons we learned. I'm glad things are getting better for you and I KNOW they will continue to do better

So I've been thinking a lot about a comment the NP made to me on the phone before the endocrinologist snatched the phone from her and went off on me about carbohydrates. I asked her why ketones are bad with a normal blood sugar and she said; "Because if you drop to low your body has no glycogen storage for you to recover." and then the phone was taken from her. She might have said "liver" and not "body", I don't remember. She definitely said "drop low" though, which confused me because I was always told to check for ketones when my number(s) were high, and not low.

Then I started thinking about this. Say I stick with this lifestyle and I'm doing well but often have ketones. Perhaps "moderate". So now my blood glucose is good but I have ketones. Now say I eat something I shouldn't and that causes my blood glucose to rise. Now I have high blood sugar and ketones, no? Isn't that the "deadly" combination?

I dont think thats a problem. Right now you are in ketosis (at least it sounds like that) and your body is burning fat for fuel instead of carbs. If you suddenly eat something that will spike your BG its very temporary and the numbers will go back down and it will probably kick you out of ketosis and the ketones will stop. Your body is very smart and adaptive. Your body switched to burning fat for energy because you were no longer eating enough carbohydrates. in doing that, ketones are produced to help give your body energy. If you eat carbs again and your body gets glucose, your body will switch to burning carbs for energy and the ketones will stop.


I watched that video, a few times. I've followed her on Facebook as well and found a lot of cool resources through her. Thanks for that link!

My C-PEPTIDE is a .5, so I'm producing very little insulin. She re-tested yesterday, so I'll know at the end of the week if anything changed. She said it's impossible to change and that number will stay the same or go lower.

what measurement is this.. here is what I found online

The reference range of C-peptide is 0.8-3.1 ng/mL (conventional units), or 0.26-1.03 nmol/L

in any case... .5 doesnt sound horribly low and please remember that if you were taking insulin, your body realizes and decides not to produce as much so it will be interesting measuring it when you are in ketosis. it might have raised a little to possibly normal number (might not but it might rise). You also dont need as much insulin if you are keto adapted.

I just saw this... are you sure that the number (.5) is that bad?

What Are Normal C-Peptide Levels?

Per the NIH, 0.5 to 2.0 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL) are considered normal amounts of c-peptide in the blood stream upon eating and your pancreas releasing insulin to cover those carbohydrates.


I went to the DAOM today, but she was so focused on acupuncture, it wasn't what I expected. She does not specialize in diabetes management or planning like I expected. I had acupuncture, it was interesting, but, I don't know. I was a little confused by the whole thing. She's telling me to eat cucumbers, tofu, squash, and quinoa. When I looked up quinoa, it was loaded with carbohydrates.

Quinoa is high and I dont eat it because of it. You are going to have to eat to your meter. if you eat something that goes high and you identify what it is, you have the option of not eating it anymore.

I have to do what you said. I have to find an endocrinologist that understands all of this and doesn't want to simply load me up with insulin. It would be really great to have a supportive doctor for once.

So with you living such a low-carbohydrate lifestyle, do you need insulin to "survive"? You likely don't need a bolus much because of your lifestyle, but how about long-acting?

you need insulin. But in ketosis, you don't need much. So if you are ketosis, the amount you are making might be enough for you. this needs to be monitored and tweaked. keep looking for Endo's with knowledge of ketosis. they are rare but they are out there. even a nutritionalist if they know about keto.


I blew up from insulin, but, I was eating like crap and taking 70-units daily. Should I need to go back to insulin to survive but still stick with the low-carbohydrate, at what point does insulin cause you to gain weight? Say I need the basal rate only and it's 15-units daily, with a bolus here and there, few units daily. Will that cause one to gain weight and blow up?

I am not on any medication and I am type 2 so hopefully others might be able to answer this. I want to only let you know my observations from experience


My numbers are not so great today. I woke up at 4:30AM at 138, had my usual protein shake around 6:45AM but adding milk for some fat, which was 15G of carbohydrates. I was still stable at ~140 at this point. About an hour later I hit 188 and stood that way for a few hours. At 10:45AM I finally started going down and hit a 148, all without insulin. I did not take my first dose of Metformin until 11AM, so that likely won't start working right away.

use heavy whipping cream instead of milk. MUCH lower carbs. Also find no carb / low carb protein powders if you havent. I have that.

I ate Shrimp Fra Diavolo for lunch at 12:28 with a 161 reading. I didn't eat all the sauce because I was afraid of the possible carbohydrates from it. Now at 1:43 I am a 142; nearly 20 lower, without insulin.

not bad on how your body reacted. you dont know whats in it so its harder.

I'm a bit nervous about sleeping with no insulin in my system. I'm afraid that my blood glucose rises for whatever reason and with ketones there, having some issue(s)

you dont have to worry, your body will stop producing ketones if you are getting glucose. but where would your body get the excess glucose? Metformin helps drive out blood glucose and you are using insulin. and please remember the lower you reduce carbs the less there is glucose in your system. your body typically cant have too high blood glucose if your not eating any/much carbs. If I was you (I am a paranoid person) I would set an alarm at least once in the middle on the night to test until you are comfortable and until you find a doctor that knows about keto

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!! ITS HARD AND CONFUSING BUT SERIOUSLY IS WORTH IT!

Here is a pic of me before and after I found out I had diabetes and changed my eating to live a keto lifestyle. this is about 6 or 7 months.

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I think you are on the right track with all of this. I dont understand how you can go from type 2 to type 1. I honestly have not heard of that but I am new to this too so it might be normal.

I hope others with type 1 can jump in with some info to clear up any other questions.

Ketones are there because your carbs are so low that your body is burning fat for energy and need the ketones to help fuel you

Here is a very short video about nutritional ketosis and ketoacidosis


If you body is producing no insulin you can have a problem. I think you would know that right now and your blood tests will show this. if your body is producing 'some' insulin (and I think it is if your BG goes from a number like 160 - something like 110... insulin is whats lowering it.) it sounds like you are still able to produce some insulin.

So here is the difference between ketoacidosis and ketosis.

Ketoacidosis... your body produces no insulin and the blood glucose just stays in your bloodstream and then ketones come out VERY high. that is a very dangerous thing.

Ketosis - your body produces 'some' insulin and you are not eating carbohydrates enough to fuel your body so it switches to burning fat which cause ketones to come out. Please note that the ketones you are seeing in your urine is EXCESS ketones that are being flushed out. If you were in ketoacidosis the number would be VERY high. Yours is not so it shows you that you are ok. all the rest of the ketones are working for you as energy for your body.

you are not having ketoacidosis if the ketones you see in the urine is low. ALL ketones are excess in ketoacidosis and it will be high.

your doctor is worried about ketoacidosis and its not the same thing. You are monitoring this. Please find out if your body is producing insulin at all. it was .5 of the C-peptide so that tells me you are producing some insulin (even if its only a little)

you are doing great and you are a rare person that is seeking out inormation to make the best choices for yourself.

Please try to find a good endo that can help you. We here can give opinions and what we experienced but the doctor is the one who specializes on this and if he/she knows nutritional ketosis they will be your guide in this.

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Blood Sugar 101 - VERY informative and accurate
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So how do I know if the amount I'm making is NOT enough for me? Is it as simple as I live this lifestyle and things are going good but one day suddenly my numbers rise, which means what I'm making is no longer enough and at that point I will have to resume taking insulin? Is it that "simple"?

Not enough insulin, your blood glucose rises, you need more insulin. Right now, numbers stable without, so A-OK?
thats what I feel. you are monitoring so if its too high and isnt going down or its trending up, go to the doctor to see if you need to up doses or meds or go back on isulin. if its in the normal range or at least close to normal but stable then you monitor it and try to get it in the normal range as much as possible.

yes... if you dont have enough insulin (this is type 1) then your blood glucose rises and you need more insulin

in type 2 you have enough insulin but your fat cells resist it (insulin resistance) and the blood glucose stays in your system. and you need meds to help

Im wondering if you are type 1.5 (I just heard about this and dont know much about it)

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sorry for the number of posts but I read your comments and want to reply to one more thing

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So you're thinking that if my numbers naturally rise when I'm sleeping then I'm producing glucose, which should make the ketones go away?
not exactly and that wouldnt be good. people's bg rises during the night for some unexplained reasons but just because it goes up doesnt mean that the ketones disappear but they CAN coexist. its only if your body produced NO insulin that this is a problem and I dont think you have that

if you are in ketosis (looks like you are) , then you will usually see a trace or small amount of excess ketones in your urine.

the blood test you took should be eye opening and could help in knowing how to proceed because it will tell you if you are producing insulin on your own

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https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb lists foods for LCHF

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