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Old 10-13-2017, 22:55   #11
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I'll share the fact that I eat low-carb to control my diabetes and that I'm not on any meds because it works. My goal is to let people know that there is another way to treat diabetes other than meds, and that D doesn't have to progress to complications.

Now and then, someone asks for details, which I am happy to share. There are two recent "converts" to LCHF from our discussions. Both have pre-diabetes and are severely overweight. One has done very well and has lost the excess weight. The other... well, I think she just doesn't want to give up anything. But she agrees that low-carb is how to do it if she gets to where she is willing to do what it takes.

A couple other diabetics, who I have lent the Diabetes 101 book to, know, but don't want to stop eating sweets and starches. I don't say anything to them at all now about diabetes or diet - I see them every week at church where they eat the donuts, crackers, and cookies available in the fellowship time.

As the saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"

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I don't like the misconceptions other people have regarding diabetes. I've been told, "If you lost weight it would go away". This is the same coworker who brought me oatmeal cookies because they're good for diabetics.

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I still enjoy hearing their perspectives, albeit briefly. I ran into a diabetic acquaintance at an ice cream stand and he was sucking on the last drops of a milkshake. I cant give this up, he told me.

It saddened me and made me think: A diabetes diagnosis is like a hurricane warning.
I get how hard it can be to walk away from a lifelong love of ice cream or potatoes or whatever. Going LCHF has not been easy for me and I never had the love of carbs some people do. You gotta make this life livable so I don't begrudge anyone their favorite if they're at all reasonable about it. My problem comes when they can't be reasonable about it -- with themselves or with me.

DW and I went to dinner recently with another couple. She's T2 and has been for years. She had a big margarita, a breaded entree, mac 'n' cheese on the side, and some fried pickles -- and then wondered the next day why, despite the metformin, her BG was off the charts. I had nothing to say.

Or, as another poster mentioned, people don't understand what foods contain carbs -- or how many carbs they contain. "Our continental breakfast has cereal, waffles, bagels, pastry, and fruit. You can eat the fruit!" It's a little too hard/I don't want to explain that I can eat a handful of berries or a couple of big watermelon chunks -- and that's it and that still is not what I consider a nourishing breakfast. Too many times, that's far more in depth than I want to get into it with people.

But, again, my problem. not theirs.

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I get how hard it can be to walk away from a lifelong love of ice cream or potatoes or whatever. Going LCHF has not been easy for me and I never had the love of carbs some people do. You gotta make this life livable so I don't begrudge anyone their favorite if they're at all reasonable about it. My problem comes when they can't be reasonable about it -- with themselves or with me.

DW and I went to dinner recently with another couple. She's T2 and has been for years. She had a big margarita, a breaded entree, mac 'n' cheese on the side, and some fried pickles -- and then wondered the next day why, despite the metformin, her BG was off the charts. I had nothing to say.

Or, as another poster mentioned, people don't understand what foods contain carbs -- or how many carbs they contain. "Our continental breakfast has cereal, waffles, bagels, pastry, and fruit. You can eat the fruit!" It's a little too hard/I don't want to explain that I can eat a handful of berries or a couple of big watermelon chunks -- and that's it and that still is not what I consider a nourishing breakfast. Too many times, that's far more in depth than I want to get into it with people.

But, again, my problem. not theirs.

I rarely eat at restaurants/drive thrus and if i I'm with others ill just have small salad. Carb and calorie counting restaurant food is difficult and not knowing what ingredients or how it was made is another risk.

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When I started trying to eat "healthy" when traveling I'd have the oatmeal, yogurt, bagel, and a fruit. Once I learned those things were really not that healthy for diabetics, I stick with real egg (hard boiler, fried, poached) if they have them, scrambled or omelet (probably egg beater) if they don't have real; bacon preferred, but will have the sausage if not; a couple of packets of the cream cheese and butter if it says its butter and not a spread; and black coffee, I usually bring my fixin's for BP coffee if we are going to be gone from home a couple of days or longer.

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The biggest public issue I've had with diabetes is acquaintances tell me that I shouldn't eat that (no matter what it is). I typically reply "well, then should I stop eating potatoes? You know that has more carbs than this." I live in potato lover land and nobody here has any clue that potatoes are actually a problem for diabetics.

I never get any crap from diabetics. Also, since my doc said it wasn't a problem if I stuck myself through my clothes (provided that I used the 5mm needles and not the nanos), I haven't hesitated to use my Novolog pen in a restaurant. I do try to be discrete, but there are no children around so I don't worry about it. Adults should be paying attention to their own table.

I feel that it will be impossible for me to live a HFLC diet until my Mom passes away and I expect her to be here for another decade. So, my current focus is simply to reduce what carbs I CAN and get more exercise.

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The stigma being, "How can that be, you're so thin?"
The stigma being overwhelming confusion over the word, "diabetes."
The stigma being folks thinking we can just, "Work through lunch" as if we can then leave early. I can't work through lunch.
The stigma being dietary controls as a solution for diabetes. Sure, maybe for type 2? In the absence of insulin, there are no dietary controls for t1d - knowing full well everybody should have dietary controls nonetheless.

Just a brain dump. Overall, I'm doing great. Imagine my surprise when I got my a1c to 5.5!

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Overall, I'm doing great. Imagine my surprise when I got my a1c to 5.5!

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(thanks! I'd run it up to 11, before my diagnosis.)

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Buying needles and getting profiled as a drug user. Not that I believe in stigmatizing addicts as it is a sickness.

I think in the future I will ask if they sell anything to make my finger sticks heal faster, show my finger full of little holes from testing, then request the needles.

I just thought of that.

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