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cymbals65 04-29-2018 17:45

My sister argghh!
 
Approx 30 years ago my older sister was diagnosed with MS. Ten years ago she was diagnosed with what is described as "brittle type 1 diabetes". About three years ago her husband called an ambulance because she had severe vomiting. In the hospital they gave her an IV because she was severely dehydrated, her BS was around 700. Since that first incident she has been to the hospital 13 times for the same issue.
She no longer cooks so her morbidly obese husband does the cooking. She eats what he eats which consists of: pizza, pasta, sub sandwiches etc. For breakfast she has an egg sandwich on white bread, for lunch she has a cheese sandwich on white bread.
After that last hospital visit she told me that she finally had a doctor who knows what he's doing. She said he told her that "you need to eat more carbs especially sugar, go ahead and eat fudge brownies, cake, candy bars etc, and up your insulin to counter act the sugar that you're eating". He had diagnosed her with keto-acidosis. As she said to me "us type one-ers have it easier than you type two-ers. I can eat what ever I want. I just take more insulin.
Due to years of being a shut in and her illnesses she basically has the mind of a 12 year old. She completely believes everything her controlling husband tells her.
Eating lots of sugar for someone in her situation just sounds really wrong to me. I'd really like some input here! Thanks.

xring 04-29-2018 18:21

I was hospitalized for a week with ketoacidosis after a poorly-treated dental infection got my blood sugar up to 705. Nothing stays down. I had seven days of IV's & left the hospital 23 lbs heavier from fluids. I was told that's how ketoacidosis is treated. It can be deadly; the body turns acidic. I couldn't swallow anything without terrible pain in my esophagus for two weeks.
She is in a bad situation with her husband; frequently, a spouse who is overweight wants their better half to also be overweight due to insecurity & misery loves company. Been there with my ex wife; she wanted to keep me overweight because (in her mind) other women wouldn't look at me.
It's hard to believe what she is telling you about her current doctor's food suggestions...perhaps she is fabricating it so you will not confront her about what she's eating. Insulin is a fat-storage hormone, so eating excess sugar/carbs & using extra insulin may cause weight gain & other problems.

cymbals65 04-29-2018 18:46

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Originally Posted by xring (Post 1294753)
I was hospitalized for a week with ketoacidosis after a poorly-treated dental infection got my blood sugar up to 705. Nothing stays down. I had seven days of IV's & left the hospital 23 lbs heavier from fluids. I was told that's how ketoacidosis is treated. It can be deadly; the body turns acidic. I couldn't swallow anything without terrible pain in my esophagus for two weeks.
She is in a bad situation with her husband; frequently, a spouse who is overweight wants their better half to also be overweight due to insecurity & misery loves company. Been there with my ex wife; she wanted to keep me overweight because (in her mind) other women wouldn't look at me.
It's hard to believe what she is telling you about her current doctor's food suggestions...perhaps she is fabricating it so you will not confront her about what she's eating. Insulin is a fat-storage hormone, so eating excess sugar/carbs & using extra insulin may cause weight gain & other problems.

She is very over weight too. Like you said probably because of the amount of insulin she's taking. That and the horrible diet along with the MS which has progressed to the point that she can hardly walk. It's entirely possible that her husband was able to re-construe what the doctor said, he is very cunning. A few years ago she broke her leg. Rather than taking her to the hospital he left her sitting on a 5 gallon bucket and went to work. Luckily my other sister came by and found her and called an ambulance. He has hated my other sister ever since.
When our dad passed away a few years ago one of the last things he said to me was "I want you to look after your sister". Unfortunately There isn't much I can do for her. It breaks my heart!!

Hearts Jounrey 04-29-2018 21:38

That Dr who told her that "you need to eat more carbs especially sugar, go ahead and eat fudge brownies, cake, candy bars etc, and up your insulin to counter act the sugar that you're eating" may be the one of the most irresponsible statement i have heard from a DR.

I suggest to read the article below and have your sister read it.

The Laws of Small Numbers - Diabetes Solution - Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. A Complete Guide to Achieving Normal Blood Sugars. Official Web Site

xring 04-30-2018 04:53

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Originally Posted by Hearts Jounrey (Post 1294769)
That Dr who told her that "you need to eat more carbs especially sugar, go ahead and eat fudge brownies, cake, candy bars etc, and up your insulin to counter act the sugar that you're eating" may be the one of the most irresponsible statement i have heard from a DR.

I suggest to read the article below and have your sister read it.

The Laws of Small Numbers - Diabetes Solution - Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. A Complete Guide to Achieving Normal Blood Sugars. Official Web Site

At my diagnosis in 2008, I got much worse advice from my doctor. At first, he wanted to hospitalize me for dehydration, saying "You need IV fluids."
I asked him why he thought I was dehydrated. He said "You're diabetic...diabetics are always dehydrated."
I said, "I can't afford to be hospitalized; I have no medical insurance & I'm a cash patient."
He said, "OK, drink 6 glasses of Gatorade each day."
I asked, "Doesn't Gatorade have sugar in it?"
He said, "Not really."
I didn't know much then, but I knew enough to read labels. 6 glasses of Gatorade has 120 gms of sugar. Yeah...."Not really...."

Any doctor would know that, so why would he suggest it to a diabetic? He was likely upset that I had no insurance - which means he couldn't send a huge bill to my insurer....like around $20,000.00/day or more.

Oh....and lab tests confirmed that I was NOT dehydrated.

itissteve 04-30-2018 13:14

Your sister's (already compromised) health is in danger. IMHO she would benefit from a very different living situation, but as long as she believes her doctor and her husband have her best interests in mind, likely nothing will change. :sad2:

Given the state of your sister's husband's health, has there been any planning within the family to determine what will happen if he can no longer care for her? Don't need an answer here; just posing the question.

rsfletcher 04-30-2018 13:24

That's a tough situation - I'm not sure if there is anything you can do for your sister as she needs to do what the rest of us do - research and maybe talk to a few people with diabetes who are doing well to give her an idea of what might be possible.

My biggest driver when I was younger were my kids. I wanted to be around for them and do Dad things. That was a big incentive - they're grown up now - time sure goes fast!

jbhammon 05-02-2018 02:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hearts Jounrey (Post 1294769)
That Dr who told her that "you need to eat more carbs especially sugar, go ahead and eat fudge brownies, cake, candy bars etc, and up your insulin to counter act the sugar that you're eating" may be the one of the most irresponsible statement i have heard from a DR.

I suggest to read the article below and have your sister read it.

The Laws of Small Numbers - Diabetes Solution - Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. A Complete Guide to Achieving Normal Blood Sugars. Official tvWeb Site

This is insane. If your sister wants survive, she needs consider keto. Read the books, listen to stories. I nearly died from heart disease. Doctors had me terrified of fat. But I was on terminal path and had nothing to lose. In 6 weeks I have lost 25 lbs and never felt better. I don't need insulin anymore. My blood pressure in a comfortable low. I didn't feel this good as a teenager.

Keto, keto, keto, keto

CMartin 06-27-2018 05:26

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Originally Posted by cymbals65 (Post 1294737)
Approx 30 years ago my older sister was diagnosed with MS. Ten years ago she was diagnosed with what is described as "brittle type 1 diabetes". About three years ago her husband called an ambulance because she had severe vomiting. In the hospital they gave her an IV because she was severely dehydrated, her BS was around 700. Since that first incident she has been to the hospital 13 times for the same issue.
She no longer cooks so her morbidly obese husband does the cooking. She eats what he eats which consists of: pizza, pasta, sub sandwiches etc. For breakfast she has an egg sandwich on white bread, for lunch she has a cheese sandwich on white bread.
After that last hospital visit she told me that she finally had a doctor who knows what he's doing. She said he told her that "you need to eat more carbs especially sugar, go ahead and eat fudge brownies, cake, candy bars etc, and up your insulin to counter act the sugar that you're eating". He had diagnosed her with keto-acidosis. As she said to me "us type one-ers have it easier than you type two-ers. I can eat what ever I want. I just take more insulin.
Due to years of being a shut in and her illnesses she basically has the mind of a 12 year old. She completely believes everything her controlling husband tells her.
Eating lots of sugar for someone in her situation just sounds really wrong to me. I'd really like some input here! Thanks.

How's your sister doing lately ? Any changes ?

cymbals65 09-09-2018 17:53

I'm finally back here after struggling with lost passwords for a few months. Not one of the more user friendly forums I've been on. My sister was back in the emergency room in mid July once again with Ketoacidosis. As long as she eats the crap the her uncaring hubby feeds her this will continue. My other sister is convinced that he is killing her a little at a time, and her doc is an idiot. One if these day I'm sure she won't pull out of it. I feel so hopeless!


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