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Old 08-16-2018, 10:20   #1
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Is it possible to control type 1 with diet and excercise only
and not use insulin or meds?

What's your thoughts please???

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I don't think so. You might be able to minimize the need for insulin by eating less carbohydrates but if you don't make any insuline yourself, you're going to need to inject it (pump/pen).

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Is it possible to control type 1 with diet and excercise only
and not use insulin or meds?

What's your thoughts please???
I tried once about 20 years ago when I was on one of my canoe expedition trips. I was only eating fish or beef jerky and was of course physically active from dusk to dawn. I still had to give myself a small amount of Long Lasting Insulin each day to keep my BG levels relatively stable in the normal range.

So having said that - I have not found a way but I suspect I could definitely extend my life by taking extreme dietary and exercise measures if for whatever reason I could not find insulin but I suspect that's about as good as it would get and eventually it would be game over.

Like Lily B if anyone knows how to do this - let us know !

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I tried once about 20 years ago when I was on one of my canoe expedition trips. I was only eating fish or beef jerky and was of course physically active from dusk to dawn. I still had to give myself a small amount of Long Lasting Insulin each day to keep my BG levels relatively stable in the normal range.

So having said that - I have not found a way but I suspect I could definitely extend my life by taking extreme dietary and exercise measures if for whatever reason I could not find insulin but I suspect that's about as good as it would get and eventually it would be game over.

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Hi I'm only asking as my son has been nearly 5 months, first diagnosed (type 1) end of March given insulin (10 on evening) by the 2nd April he was brought off it as it was making his BG to low
(See my OP "Mother needing info" )

Since then he has been eating normal just not as much carb as he used to have, and excercise every other day.

He has portage for breakfast
Chicken and salad Wrap for lunch sm piece of cake
Meat and veg with rice or pasta for dinner again with a dessert apple tart

Eats olives, cheese and couple of pieces of chocolate on an evening

Bloods in a morning 4 , evening 2 hours after dinner 6


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Could be that for some reason, his pancreas took a break on the output of insulin and/or went crazy putting out glucagon on a brief frenzy. I don't know much if anything about type 1 or 1.5 so I can't say if this may be the first of the onset of an autoimmune event or not and that he has been in a honeymoon phase ever since. You'd think even on a honeymoon, there would be a disruption in the harmony with some occasional bride's toast or having a beer with the boys in the first 5 months. Maybe it was just a 1 day protest that may have gone undetected had it not been for the night out drinking.

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Hi I'm only asking as my son has been nearly 5 months, first diagnosed (type 1) end of March given insulin (10 on evening) by the 2nd April he was brought off it as it was making his BG to low
(See my OP "Mother needing info" )

Since then he has been eating normal just not as much carb as he used to have, and excercise every other day.

He has portage for breakfast
Chicken and salad Wrap for lunch sm piece of cake
Meat and veg with rice or pasta for dinner again with a dessert apple tart

Eats olives, cheese and couple of pieces of chocolate on an evening

Bloods in a morning 4 , evening 2 hours after dinner 6
That's very interesting Lily B.

The first thought I had is what happened with my son. As Type 1 runs in my family we used to occasionally test the kids when they were young and not feeling well. Once my son tested in the high 9s around 170. My spouse and I freaked out - took him in to see a pediatrician - tests were done and there was nothing else that indicated he had diabetes.

The pediatrician told us that running high BGs on occasion is more common than one would think but also said because I was a type 1 it was good that we got a blood test done etc.

I was diagnosed when I was 4 and seemed to experience what is called a honeymoon period when I was 7 or 8 years old. I kept having hypos because my pancreas temporarily started making some insulin.

Unfortunately it did not last long as the hypo episodes stopped about 6 months later.

On another note - my Grandparents were from Yorkshire - south Yorkshire though in Elescar...

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Lilly no type 1 can exist without insulin. It would be a matter of of days and likely after 1 day, DKA would set in as blood sugar rose over 300. For example if i went 24 hrs without insulin even without eating and staying active, my glucose level would likely go over 400 day 1, 600 day 2 and 800+ day 3 and most likely coma day 4. Honeymoon type 1's could go for longer like 2 weeks but i dont have a way of knowing exactly how long.

Diabetic ketoacidosis has a high mortality (death rate) and risk of complications. The prognosis depends on how quickly it is recognized, the underlying medical conditions of the individual, and the underlying precipitating causes of the diabetic ketoacidosis.

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Could be that for some reason, his pancreas took a break on the output of insulin and/or went crazy putting out glucagon on a brief frenzy. I don't know much if anything about type 1 or 1.5 so I can't say if this may be the first of the onset of an autoimmune event or not and that he has been in a honeymoon phase ever since. You'd think even on a honeymoon, there would be a disruption in the harmony with some occasional bride's toast or having a beer with the boys in the first 5 months. Maybe it was just a 1 day protest that may have gone undetected had it not been for the night out drinking.
Interesting mbuster, very interesting 👍

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That's very interesting Lily B.

The first thought I had is what happened with my son. As Type 1 runs in my family we used to occasionally test the kids when they were young and not feeling well. Once my son tested in the high 9s around 170. My spouse and I freaked out - took him in to see a pediatrician - tests were done and there was nothing else that indicated he had diabetes.

The pediatrician told us that running high BGs on occasion is more common than one would think but also said because I was a type 1 it was good that we got a blood test done etc.

I was diagnosed when I was 4 and seemed to experience what is called a honeymoon period when I was 7 or 8 years old. I kept having hypos because my pancreas temporarily started making some insulin.

Unfortunately it did not last long as the hypo episodes stopped about 6 months later.

On another note - my Grandparents were from Yorkshire - south Yorkshire though in Elescar...

Hi rsfletcher I've heard that before that folk can have spikes and never go on to get diabetes

.....My sister lived in Calgary for 7 years I visited many times and loved it especially lake Louise, Banff and the Rockies

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