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Old 08-23-2018, 05:41   #51
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Is there a difference between Type 1 and 1.5 other than timing in life one requires exogenous insulin to stay alive? Does a Type 1.5 have something functioning that a Type 1 does not?

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The biggest difference is an autoimmune attack causes beta cell impairment and damage much more quickly in Type 1 than 1.5. Often type 1 have at least 2 and many times 3 autoantibodies that are positive. Patients with latent autoimmune diabetes in adults (LADA) have a more progressive insulin secretion defect which could take a year or many years until one requires daily insulin and often they have just one auto antibody positive.

Think of LADA as a tropical storm and Type 1 as Category 3 Hurricane.

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Thanks VeeJay yes he was told back in May he could be type 1.5 which I believe is classed as, LADA, he honeymoon has been nothing but normal readings...I've read such a lot about how up and down honeymoon is and folk are releaved when this period ends

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Mbuster they have always said they "think" he is type 1
Because of his normal level BG readings over the last 5 months with no insulin
and not having any problems they suggested he could have had a virul infection that caused the pancrease to be effected...
IMHO I think time will tell, as this will give more evidence over time of what he is type1/1.5/LADA

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Mbuster I have heard about (dan drakes) stating you can have a certain gene that when the cells die, they reboot again, wether this is the reason you can be type 1 with no insulin????

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The biggest difference is an autoimmune attack causes beta cell impairment and damage much more quickly in Type 1 than 1.5. Often type 1 have at least 2 and many times 3 autoantibodies that are positive. Patients with latent autoimmune diabetes in adults (LADA) have a more progressive insulin secretion defect which could take a year or many years until one requires daily insulin and often they have just one auto antibody positive.

Think of LADA as a tropical storm and Type 1 as Category 3 Hurricane.
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I have tried profoundly to reboot my beta cells and have called upon the services of an electrician, a carpenter, a microchip architect, Pope Jorge Mario Bergoglio, and Dr McCoy from Star Trek and sadly to say all Im able to reboot are my memories from the days before i was diagnosed with T1

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Mbuster I have heard about (dan drakes) stating you can have a certain gene that when the cells die, they reboot again, wether this is the reason you can be type 1 with no insulin????

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Default ZnT8 Test

See below info on the test my son has had recently a zinc
transporter 8, new byball accounts.
It sounds just like a GAD test, by stating a negative result doesn't mean your not type 1....it sounds more like it helps with diagnosing type 2 then type 1 imho?




Kronus's Zinc Transporter 8 Autoantibody (ZnT8Ab) ELISA Assay (Star, Idaho) was approved to help diagnose type 1 diabetes. The test may help some patients with type 1 diabetes receive a timely diagnosis and treatment for the disease when used with other tests and clinical information.

The test detects the presence of the ZnT8Ab autoantibody that is produced by many patients with type 1 diabetes but not by those with type 2 or gestational diabetes.

The assay was approved based on data from a clinical study of 569 blood samples from patients with type 1 diabetes as well as from patients with other types of diabetes, autoimmune diseases, or other conditions. The test was able to detect the ZnT8 autoantibody in 65% of samples from patients diagnosed with type 1 diabetes; incorrect positive results occurred in fewer than 2% of samples from patients diagnosed with other diseases.
A negative test result doesn't rule out Type 1

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Can you cite the source of the info.

To me it looks like a positive result rules out Type 2, but a negative does not rule out Type 1. Positive results were accurate 98% of the time and showed up in 65% with Type 1. So far it looks like your son is not ruled out of being in the other 35% of Type 1s.

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Correct. A negative ZNT8 test result doesn't rule out Type 1 as other autoantibody tests can be positive. I dont see a relationship between ZNT8 and type 2 and not used to dx type 2, Type 2 does not have positive autoantibodies

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