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Cassie2922 11-18-2018 16:38

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Originally Posted by hftmrock (Post 1312729)
I am VERY glad you have it under control... I have a question for you.

if you can turn back time when you decided to be cavalier about it, what would you change and why?

also - how much medication did you take when you decided to be cavalier and how much and what additions are you taking now.

in my opinion , you are Ratter51's 'Christmas yet to come' ghost...

You may be right about my being the "Ghost of Christmas Future."

My main problem was that I wasn't testing enough. I was simply assuming that what I was eating was ok. My endocrinologist was always telling me that I needed more data on my glucose meter. The strange thing was that my A1C wasn't that terribly high---6.5. But later my doctor said that for many diabetics the A1C is not always a true indicator of glucose control.

I was eating crackers, wraps, and peanut butter, but I was proud of myself because I never ate potatoes, pasta, rice, or high carb fruit. After I realized that my physical problems were caused by diabetes (believe it or not, I kept thinking it was stress), I started testing several times a day and cutting my portions way back and eliminating all of the high carb stuff I was eating. I lost about 20 lbs. Now I'm actually having to take less insulin than before. In fact, over the past few months I've had a lot of lows because of the drastic change in eating. I'm learning to control those lows by simply taking less insulin.

Let me tell you, nothing gets your attention like having numb, tingling feet and hands.

hftmrock 11-18-2018 16:53

thanks for that info...

would you do things different if you could?

the issue is see is the numbing and tingling is nerve damage (neuropathy) and that can NOT be reversed.. you can probably ease some of the symptoms but nerve damage doesnt repair itself.

Cassie2922 11-18-2018 17:16

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Originally Posted by hftmrock (Post 1312735)
thanks for that info...

would you do things different if you could?

the issue is see is the numbing and tingling is nerve damage (neuropathy) and that can NOT be reversed.. you can probably ease some of the symptoms but nerve damage doesnt repair itself.

Paresthesia CAN be reversed. Paresthesia is the early warning sign of nerves being stressed. When I got my diabetes under control, the symptoms went away.

What would I do differently? You mean now or before? I would have tested more often (4-6 times a day) and I would have cut out the things that were driving my numbers up.

hftmrock 11-18-2018 17:22

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Originally Posted by Cassie2922 (Post 1312739)
Paresthesia CAN be reversed. Paresthesia is the early warning sign of nerves being stressed. When I got my diabetes under control, the symptoms went away.

What would I do differently? You mean now or before? I would have tested more often (4-6 times a day) and I would have cut out the things that were driving my numbers up.

paresthesia can be reversed .. this is true.

Neuropathy cant and it might be hard to tell the difference since the symptoms are very similar

but you are correct.

Cassie2922 11-18-2018 17:24

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Originally Posted by hftmrock (Post 1312741)
paresthesia can be reversed .. this is true.

Neuropathy cant and it might be hard to tell the difference since the symptoms are very similar

but you are correct.

If you read Dr. Bernstein, he says that even some nerve damage can be reversed in time.

mbuster 11-18-2018 21:35

My wife had nerves burned around her SI joint (hip) in seven places, because getting steroid injections just wasn't stopping the pain. I think it is a process called Radio Frequency Ablation. She was told she would probably have to do it again anywhere from between 6 months to 2 years because the nerves would regenerate and grow back.

This article from The Truth About Cancer says nerve damage from diabetic neuropathy can be reversed. The misconception that it can't may stem from not doing anything differently about it, like getting a burn from putting your hand in a fire, never taking your hand out of the fire, and then declaring burns don't heal. JMO. If you don't rid the cause, damage is continuing and healing can't outpace it.

Ratter51 11-19-2018 00:16

I don’t know if this applies here, but in 2006 I had laser spine surgery and my left side was numb and the Drs said it’s 50/50 if nerves come back. They did not.

Ratter51 11-22-2018 12:32

Did a fasting glucose and it’s the highest it’s ever been....200. Got to cut down on the deserts. Last desert I had last night was fat free icecream and two Oreo cookies. I guess that’s not a good thing. Now there’s a ton of pies and food waiting for us at Thanksgiving. Yikes

Cassie2922 11-22-2018 13:37

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Originally Posted by Ratter51 (Post 1312833)
Did a fasting glucose and itís the highest itís ever been....200. Got to cut down on the deserts. Last desert I had last night was fat free icecream and two Oreo cookies. I guess thatís not a good thing. Now thereís a ton of pies and food waiting for us at Thanksgiving. Yikes

Have you tried low carb ice cream? 200 is really high.

itissteve 11-22-2018 13:38

Thanksgiving (and Christmas and so many other food-centric holidays) is tough for all of us with diabetes -- way too many temptations and not enough carbs in the day. Don't forget -- it's not just the obviously sweet stuff like pie and marshmallows that contain lots of carbohydrates; the potatoes and gravy and cranberry sauce and rolls do, too.

Oh, and "fat-free" foods can be among the worst for your blood glucose because when they take out the fat, they usually replace it with starches and sugars -- carbs. Fat will not raise your blood glucose levels. That's why so many of us here do well with a low-carb/high-fat way of eating.

I think you've figured out you need to watch more closely what you're eating. Thanksgiving is a tough day to start eating differently, though, so tomorrow morning's fasting glucose number could be a shocker, too. (In fact, morning fasting glucose numbers are among the last to come down for most people with diabetes.)

I am going to make what is perhaps a controversial suggestion: If Thanksgiving is not Thanksgiving for you without pie, then eat some. Maybe choose a smaller piece than usual (or one slice :smile2:) or cut back on the mashed potatoes and cranberry sauce from the rest of the meal. You likely will not "cover" the carbs in the pie completely. But there are approximately 363 other days of the year you can eat better. Diabetes commands enough of our attention every day. If learning to manage it through diet calls for an occasional detour, well, you still can get there without feeling like your life has been ruined. One or two "bad days" out of the year is better than just eating whatever, whenever, and hoping for the best.

Good luck to you, Ratter, and to all of us navigating Thanksgiving tables today.


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