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itissteve 09-26-2018 23:38

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Originally Posted by Ratter51 (Post 1311171)
After all that bad food, the reading should have been way over 200. But it was not. Go figure..... makes me think itís pre Diabetes not Diabetes. A real diabetic would have way over 200 reading right???

There's a lot going on there. What did you do for exercise after eating? When do you take your Metformin (and what kind is it)? Did you measure at three hours after (it takes some foods that long to register increases in BG levels)?

Your body still can produce some of the insulin it needs -- but, obviously, not enough, as your numerous reports of fasting blood glucose levels of 149 attest. It's likely that your pancreas responded to your Mickey Dee's meal with enough insulin to counteract most of those carbs -- but then it may have overshot the runway, so to speak, producing more insulin than your body needed, or your body's cells just got another little bit worse at reacting to the proper balance of glucose and insulin. Or both.

None of that causes visible signs of sickness now, but mark it that the damage is being done. By the time you see confirmed evidence of the damage, there will be no retreat, no walking back from the abyss.

Ratter51, you have diabetes. If you did not have diabetes, your doctor would not be having you take Metformin. If you did not have diabetes, your fasting blood glucose levels would be around 100 or lower, not in the mid-100s (as you've reported several times in this forum). It does not change anything in your body to call it "pre-diabetes" or "a mild case". You have diabetes.

The sooner you move to the "acceptance" stage (hard as that may be; it was hard for all of us and maybe not all of us are 100% there yet), the sooner you'll start avoiding the worst complications of diabetes. It is, of course, your own choice. But you're making a big bet in thinking you can just motor on until things get worse. There's a reason the odds are big -- payoff doesn't happen often.

Ratter51 09-27-2018 00:37

I’m taking 500 my twice a day, half hour after I eat and at night. Try to do it 12 hours apart. So it’s a thousand mg a day. I’m taking other meds too unrelated to the sugar issue. I was walking a mile or two each morning but cut way down on that because it’s a pain in the ass sometimes. But I get exercise somehow throughout the day doing things. Sometimes I like to walk sometimes I don’t. I dont feel it does much. It does help loosen up the muscles though. So that’s good. My PCP tells me the A1C is down from 7.1 to 6.8 and he told me my sugar is under excellent control. So I do not see the urgency to go crazy and panic at this time. My last full eye exam results were no signs of Diabetes at all.
I think the modern view on Diabetes is changing as an article I posted says testing with glucose meter everyday is a waste because A1C tells the story..things like that. My feet are fine no issues. If I do have Diabetes it’s very very minor and under excellent control. It’s not like my A1C is in the 8 range.
So far no damage I am aware of. Dr says it’s under excellent control like I said. In fact I’m going to ask him if I can stop the Metformin in My Oct appointment. I have no idea what he will say. So if my “Diabetes is under e cellent control....why worry???? Right?

itissteve 09-27-2018 04:45

Ratter51, one of us is right. Only time will tell.

hftmrock 09-27-2018 05:02

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Originally Posted by Ratter51 (Post 1311177)
Iím taking 500 my twice a day, half hour after I eat and at night. Try to do it 12 hours apart. So itís a thousand mg a day. Iím taking other meds too unrelated to the sugar issue. I was walking a mile or two each morning but cut way down on that because itís a pain in the ass sometimes. But I get exercise somehow throughout the day doing things. Sometimes I like to walk sometimes I donít. I dont feel it does much. It does help loosen up the muscles though. So thatís good. My PCP tells me the A1C is down from 7.1 to 6.8 and he told me my sugar is under excellent control. So I do not see the urgency to go crazy and panic at this time. My last full eye exam results were no signs of Diabetes at all.
I think the modern view on Diabetes is changing as an article I posted says testing with glucose meter everyday is a waste because A1C tells the story..things like that. My feet are fine no issues. If I do have Diabetes itís very very minor and under excellent control. Itís not like my A1C is in the 8 range.
So far no damage I am aware of. Dr says itís under excellent control like I said. In fact Iím going to ask him if I can stop the Metformin in My Oct appointment. I have no idea what he will say. So if my ďDiabetes is under e cellent control....why worry???? Right?

interesting...

I don't take medication at all and my numbers are between 75 and 90 at all times...and I HAVE full blown diabetes. kinda makes you think.

If I was taking medicine, then the medicine would be controlling my diabetes, not me.

you are in excellent control because your medication is assisting. Thats what medication does... and keeps doing as we up the dosage.

Good luck Ratter51. I hope you never have to come to this site for any advice like others who thought like you, and did what you are doing have come for. They all thought the same.

you can be the exception... i'm sure it happens.

:vs_cool:

Ratter51 09-27-2018 11:22

What are you doing to keep numbers so low? I had a rough night because of all the fat I ate....bad night.

hftmrock 09-27-2018 11:40

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Originally Posted by Ratter51 (Post 1311191)
What are you doing to keep numbers so low? I had a rough night because of all the fat I ate....bad night.

I live a keto lifestyle vlc/hf. When you say rough night , could you elaborate and also give what you ate. We might have some suggestions

Ratter51 09-27-2018 12:03

McDonalds fries burger and sundae lunch time and dinner black beans and rice with chopped up tailor ham onions peppers and half a loaf white Italian buttered bread. Home made lemon slice in graham cracker pie crust. The white bread taste better than brown bread but I also like brown bread too. The rice was brown rice

hftmrock 09-27-2018 12:42

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Originally Posted by Ratter51 (Post 1311197)
McDonalds fries burger and sundae lunch time and dinner black beans and rice with chopped up tailor ham onions peppers and half a loaf white Italian buttered bread. Home made lemon slice in graham cracker pie crust. The white bread taste better than brown bread but I also like brown bread too. The rice was brown rice

That’s way more carbs than fat. I would think it was all the carbs and sugar that had your reaction. Your body had to work hard to move the sugar into your cells .

hftmrock 09-27-2018 12:51

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Originally Posted by Ratter51 (Post 1311197)
McDonalds fries burger and sundae lunch time and dinner black beans and rice with chopped up tailor ham onions peppers and half a loaf white Italian buttered bread. Home made lemon slice in graham cracker pie crust. The white bread taste better than brown bread but I also like brown bread too. The rice was brown rice

I did a guesstimate and you had about 250g of carbs . For someone who has diabetes (prediabetes or regular diabetes ), that would be a lot. Not sure if you had breakfast or any sugary drinks . It would certainly give me a tough night

Ratter51 09-27-2018 13:35

Hi,I don’t drink sugary drinks other than diet cola. I eat fruit and vegetables and meat. This morning I’ll give one more example as I’m sure no one wants to hear what I eat..... I had an egg sandwich at the diner and coffee I skipped the bacon today because of the bad night last night. Iour breakfast this morning was a buttered toasted roll and they put 2 eggs on it. A leaf of lettuce. Cup of coffee. Forgot to mention big bacon eater but we get it crispy because it taste better to us and the bad stuff is cooked away. We still put the bacon on a paper towel to get anymore grease off. The diner only had white rolls. BUT McDonalds breakfast sandwiches have Canadian bacon..... so I don’t know if that concidered real bacon or ham. I go to McDonalds a couple times a week. WAWA is my main stop..... but their prices are inching up. That’s my story. What will really throw a wrench into the works if my next A1C goes even lower. Eat good A1C goes up...eat not the best A1C goes down. Go figure that one out. Lolaughs thanks for the responses.


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