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Old 01-16-2019, 23:18   #211
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Let me ask you, is 65 too old to worry about this??? Someone 45 yes but 65???
Had my eyes examined today and slight change in prescription but no signs of Diabetes. I asked him point blank and he saw no signs. That’s a good thing.

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Let me ask you, is 65 too old to worry about this???
Well, standard American life expectancy for your age is around 85, so, on average, you've got another 20 years to live. You might live to 97; you might not make it past next Tuesday. None of us controls that (or at least no one has told me how to do it).

The point we've been trying to make all along is that diabetes only gets worse if it's not managed tightly. Maybe for you, with less than a year or two of having diabetes, the signs are not yet apparent. But they will come; you might escape one or two but you won't escape them all.

Do you really want to spend your last years on Earth with impaired vision or the constant pain of neuropathy or using crutches or a walker because you lost a foot or leg to diabetes? Do you want circulatory or heart problems? You could have any of these without diabetes; they're not unique symptoms. But the research on this is clear -- poorly-managed blood glucose levels do this to bodies way faster than nature normally does.

The trouble is, once you're over the cliff and the doctor does see retinopathy or the buzzing in your arms stays more than it goes or you have a heart attack, there's no pulling back onto solid ground anymore, promising to take your meds and watch what you eat. That opportunity is gone. The damage has been done and you'll be living with it (or with it as it gets worse) for the rest of your years.

That's enough for me to decide to manage my diabetes as tightly as possible. Others here have made that same decision; some older, some younger. Sure, it would be easier at the outset to keep eating as we did and it sometimes genuinely hurts to keep moving as we get our exercise. Sure, I may not get past next Tuesday myself. But we do it because we see the most likely alternative as far worse. I saw what poorly-controlled diabetes did to my own father and to two friends of mine. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

But only you can decide what quality of life is worth to you. As they used to say in that old motor oil ad, "You can pay me now or you can pay me later". The advice works just as well for us as it does for cars.

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Well, standard American life expectancy for your age is around 85, so, on average, you've got another 20 years to live. You might live to 97; you might not make it past next Tuesday. None of us controls that (or at least no one has told me how to do it).

The point we've been trying to make all along is that diabetes only gets worse if it's not managed tightly. Maybe for you, with less than a year or two of having diabetes, the signs are not yet apparent. But they will come; you might escape one or two but you won't escape them all.

Do you really want to spend your last years on Earth with impaired vision or the constant pain of neuropathy or using crutches or a walker because you lost a foot or leg to diabetes? Do you want circulatory or heart problems? You could have any of these without diabetes; they're not unique symptoms. But the research on this is clear -- poorly-managed blood glucose levels do this to bodies way faster than nature normally does.

The trouble is, once you're over the cliff and the doctor does see retinopathy or the buzzing in your arms stays more than it goes or you have a heart attack, there's no pulling back onto solid ground anymore, promising to take your meds and watch what you eat. That opportunity is gone. The damage has been done and you'll be living with it (or with it as it gets worse) for the rest of your years.

That's enough for me to decide to manage my diabetes as tightly as possible. Others here have made that same decision; some older, some younger. Sure, it would be easier at the outset to keep eating as we did and it sometimes genuinely hurts to keep moving as we get our exercise. Sure, I may not get past next Tuesday myself. But we do it because we see the most likely alternative as far worse. I saw what poorly-controlled diabetes did to my own father and to two friends of mine. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

But only you can decide what quality of life is worth to you. As they used to say in that old motor oil ad, "You can pay me now or you can pay me later". The advice works just as well for us as it does for cars.
Thank you. If my A1C is under 7..... with one Metformin tablet a day, it is well controlled already. Everybody seems to shrug off my numbers as nothing serous. I am not making this up.

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Shrug it off if you wish, but I'm not making this up.

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I am not shrugging it off I’m just saying others seem to.

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I am not shrugging it off Iím just saying others seem to.
Yeah, but you're the one with diabetes -- not them. Just sayin'...

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Well, standard American life expectancy for your age is around 85, so, on average, you've got another 20 years to live. You might live to 97; you might not make it past next Tuesday. None of us controls that (or at least no one has told me how to do it).

The point we've been trying to make all along is that diabetes only gets worse if it's not managed tightly. Maybe for you, with less than a year or two of having diabetes, the signs are not yet apparent. But they will come; you might escape one or two but you won't escape them all.

Do you really want to spend your last years on Earth with impaired vision or the constant pain of neuropathy or using crutches or a walker because you lost a foot or leg to diabetes? Do you want circulatory or heart problems? You could have any of these without diabetes; they're not unique symptoms. But the research on this is clear -- poorly-managed blood glucose levels do this to bodies way faster than nature normally does.

The trouble is, once you're over the cliff and the doctor does see retinopathy or the buzzing in your arms stays more than it goes or you have a heart attack, there's no pulling back onto solid ground anymore, promising to take your meds and watch what you eat. That opportunity is gone. The damage has been done and you'll be living with it (or with it as it gets worse) for the rest of your years.

That's enough for me to decide to manage my diabetes as tightly as possible. Others here have made that same decision; some older, some younger. Sure, it would be easier at the outset to keep eating as we did and it sometimes genuinely hurts to keep moving as we get our exercise. Sure, I may not get past next Tuesday myself. But we do it because we see the most likely alternative as far worse. I saw what poorly-controlled diabetes did to my own father and to two friends of mine. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

But only you can decide what quality of life is worth to you. As they used to say in that old motor oil ad, "You can pay me now or you can pay me later". The advice works just as well for us as it does for cars.
VERY well said!!!

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Hi, had eye examined a couple days ago at Walmart Optical and slight update on perscription and no signs of Diabetes. I asked him specifically to look. So thatís a good thing. He said they look anyway for signs.

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Another question, for first time ever I did a glucose meter reading 5 hours after I ate breakfast. It read 102! That has to be a great number. This is why I doubt about this Diabetes the Dr says I have. 102 has to be a great number right?

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anything over 100 is not a 'great' number. my numbers are never over 100

and 5 hours after it should be out of your bloodstream so the 100+ is even more of a factor.

one hour and 2 hours are the numbers that show how high the food you eat affects you. if your body can not clean up the food you ate for breakfast after 5 hours, you would have a SERIOUS issue.

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