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Ratter51 10-02-2018 00:03

Hi, I may be the first one I’m aware of to do a live glucose reading on FaceBook. Type Ken Meise and scroll down to see how I did it. Then tell me if the results are decent.

mbuster 10-02-2018 01:20

A 174 is way too high for me. It used to be normal to be there or higher until I found this forum and learned that numbers that high can cause organ and nerve damage. Once I've been able to get my BG below 140, I've jumped thru hoops trying to keep it there.

Nice shop. My FIL does upholstery work.

Ratter51 10-06-2018 02:43

Wow fasting glucose down to normal range 131 yesterday morning. Want to see the next A1C oct 11 maybe if Dr does it. This one will tell the story. Sometimes he says next time on the bloodwork. But it’s been 4 times a year sometimes 3 times. If it stays at 6.7 or lower than I’m good to go. If it goes back up to 7.1 then I don’t know what I will do. But appetite is getting very strong and that’s not good.

hftmrock 10-06-2018 02:53

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Originally Posted by Ratter51 (Post 1311551)
Wow fasting glucose down to normal range 131 yesterday morning. Want to see the next A1C oct 11 maybe if Dr does it. This one will tell the story. Sometimes he says next time on the bloodwork. But it’s been 4 times a year sometimes 3 times. If it stays at 6.7 or lower than I’m good to go. If it goes back up to 7.1 then I don’t know what I will do. But appetite is getting very strong and that’s not good.

i never heard of a fasting glucose of 131 being of normal range. I checked online and this is what I found

Target levels

Blood sugar levels vary throughout the day and with food intake, so no single blood sugar reading can reveal the full picture of how someone is processing sugar.

There is also no single blood sugar reading that is ideal in all contexts. For most people, HbA1C levels should be less than 7, but the target number changes based on a variety of personal factors.

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Target blood sugar numbers are as follows in milligrams per decilitre (mg/dL):

Fasting (morning testing before food or water): 70-100 mg/dL for people without diabetes; 70-130 mg/dL for people with diabetes.
Two hours following a meal: less than 140 mg/dL for people without diabetes; below 180 mg/dL for people with diabetes.
so if you consider that you have diabetes.... then you just miss out on normal by 1 point. Normal reading for people without diabetes is 70-100. Since you have diabetes and are at the very high side of normal for a diabetic, it wont be long before that moves higher if diet is not considered. Your medicine will only do so much

for you to consider lowering or removing your medicine, you will need to get to the normal range for non diabetics which is less than 100

Ratter51 10-07-2018 13:10

Took a fasting glucose just now 8am in NJ it seems high side.....158
I hope the Dr does an A1C Thursday. Last time fasting was 131 a few days back.
I did eat Italian bread with pasta in a little tomato sauce and crumb bun for desert. I guess all bad stuff but the pasta was whole grain elbows. Notice I said whole grain. Probably the crumbbun pushed the numbers high.

itissteve 10-07-2018 14:31

The net-carb breakdown for one "serving" of elbow macaroni (quotations used because a serving [or "exchange"] is 1/2 cup and most people eat more than that)*:

Creamette elbows ("regular"): 42 grams of carbs, 2 grams dietary fiber = 40 grams net carbs

Hodgson Mill elbows (whole wheat): 41 grams of carbs, 6 grams dietary fiber = 35 grams net carbs

Many/most of us here eating LCHF or keto try not to eat more than 30 grams of carbs in a day.

Not saying that's how you have to eat. Just pointing out that many foods that folks like to think are "good for you" aren't necessarily good for people with diabetes. It's not always the sugary stuff like crumbbuns that can spike your blood glucose.

* numbers from fatsecret.com

Ratter51 10-07-2018 15:08

All my doctor said last couple times is watch the Carbs & stay away from pizza. All other bloodwork numbers are in normal range. Thursday is next appointment. Oct 11. IF Dr. does bloodwork, he sends it out to Labcorp and results take a couple days. He did say in the past to let him know if I get any numbness in my feet. If my A1C goes down that will be a great improvement I believe and unexplainable as I don’t eat a diabetic diet at this time. My hopes are it drops to below 6.5 which is then pre diabetic. If he does not do a bloodwork test, then I have to wait another 2 or 3 months which he will surely do.
Another thing is I think using the glucose meter is addicting to people. If you don’t use it everyday you keep wondering and fretting. Eventually your whole life revolves around Diabetes. It seems to get obsessive. Right?
I think the A1C is all that most type 2 people need.
Seem to be getting lots of adds selling Diabetes things and I know my Dr. does not give names out. So someone is doing it or websites I visit are keeping names. Been getting ads for bracelets lately. Then diet books etc etc. it’s annoying.

mbuster 10-07-2018 16:01

Been getting ads where Ratter, on the forum or everywhere? The forum does allow advertising, I think it is what pays the bills. There are a lot if not logged in, but much fewer if you are logged in. When logged in, I can mentally block them out.

If elsewhere, Google and social media sites track what you do and put ads out there of where you've been. I looked for a dog feeder yesterday on the internet then drove to town and bought it. Guess what ads I'm seeing today on different sites?

hftmrock 10-07-2018 16:19

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Originally Posted by Ratter51 (Post 1311609)
All my doctor said last couple times is watch the Carbs & stay away from pizza. All other bloodwork numbers are in normal range. Thursday is next appointment. Oct 11. IF Dr. does bloodwork, he sends it out to Labcorp and results take a couple days. He did say in the past to let him know if I get any numbness in my feet. If my A1C goes down that will be a great improvement I believe and unexplainable as I donít eat a diabetic diet at this time. My hopes are it drops to below 6.5 which is then pre diabetic. If he does not do a bloodwork test, then I have to wait another 2 or 3 months which he will surely do.
Another thing is I think using the glucose meter is addicting to people. If you donít use it everyday you keep wondering and fretting. Eventually your whole life revolves around Diabetes. It seems to get obsessive. Right?
I think the A1C is all that most type 2 people need.
Seem to be getting lots of adds selling Diabetes things and I know my Dr. does not give names out. So someone is doing it or websites I visit are keeping names. Been getting ads for bracelets lately. Then diet books etc etc. itís annoying.

a couple of things to unpack here.

Your BG levels are close to normal because of the metformin. If you believe the medicine is working at all, then you have to believe your numbers would be significantly higher without it. I would say for the doctor to reduce your medication you have to be within normal levels (under 100) and not prediabetic numbers

regarding a glucose meter... I have not tested myself in about 9 months. there is no need. Once you know what foods raise your BG and what doesnt, then there is no reason to test often. I would not recommend not testing for long periods like I have done but it proves the point that its not an obsessive thing.

if you start to get numbness in your feet, its MUCH MUCH MUCH harder to get it under control than if you get it under control now. Its like having a leak in your roof... you can fix it when you first notice it OR when the water gets ankle deep (and the hole is larger)... once its ankle deep and bigger, its much harder to fix than if you did it right away.

VeeJay 10-07-2018 18:48

Using the glucose meter is prudent, not an obsession. Most newly diagnosed diabetics test a lot so that they know what's going on, and as they make changes in their diet, this is a way of confirmation. Then, as time goes on, and as one learns what foods to eat and which ones to avoid, and the level of carbs one can safely eat - testing becomes less frequent.

I've been a diabetic for a number of years. I tested a lot the first six months, less so for several months after that. I am able to fairly accurately predict what my BG level will be most of the time. Now I test over a weeks' time 2-3 months. This checking on how I'm doing is also prudent. If there's been a significant change in my ability to handle carbs, this occasional testing will catch.


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