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Old 02-12-2019, 02:45   #1
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I am 51yo, take Toujeo 40 units nightly and Humolog 14 units before meals. Also take Jardiance daily. I want to get off of as many meds as possible and I'm wondering if anyone here has successfully gotten off insulin through diet and exercise alone. Thanks for your input.

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When I was diagnosed 10 years ago with A1c at 9, my doctor wanted to put me on insulin. I disagreed & changed my diet, exercised, lost 85 lbs. & was able to get it down to 6.0 & my new doctor said no insulin or meds needed.
That was fine for several years, until my A1c went up to 12 after losing weight. Now, even if I eat nothing, my sugar goes up over 300, so insulin is needed. There are times when exercise lowers my sugar & other times, it raises it.
Since you take 14 U. Humalog before meals, your diet would probably have to change drastically to avoid needing any insulin - maybe little or no carbs. Personally, I wouldn't want to eat that way. Besides finding it unpleasant, I'd be concerned about other health issues. I test before breakfast & sometimes need 10 U. Humalog, sometimes 5, & sometimes none when I wake up under 150. I sometimes get too low if I take Humalog before lunch, so I'll test & maybe take 5 U. or none if I'm driving. By dinner time, I'm usually high again so I'll take 10 more Units.
We're all different as far as how diabetes acts & also how it changes with time, so you may or may not be able to get off insulin/meds.

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If I was in your circumstance and just found out now what I've known for a while, I'd opt to stick with the insulin and drop the meds, and adjust the insulin as I reduced the carbs.

I can't speak of being successful at getting off of insulin because I have kept from getting on insulin thru diet and exercise and a minimal dosage of metformin for BG control. And I hope to stay that way for a very long time.

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I've been on this forum for several years. There have been some who were able to go off insulin - mostly because they had been eating a lot of carbs and when they adopted a low-carb/high-fat way of eating, their need for insulin greatly decreased.

Everyone is different, though. And you might want your doctor on board as you work toward that goal.

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I am 51yo, take Toujeo 40 units nightly and Humolog 14 units before meals. Also take Jardiance daily. I want to get off of as many meds as possible and I'm wondering if anyone here has successfully gotten off insulin through diet and exercise alone. Thanks for your input.
my mom after being diabetic for 20 years and on insulin for about 10 years, got off insulin and managed without it for a few years (as a result of diet and weight loss, yoga)...later insulin was reintroduced as she got careless

I was diagnosed in 2011 and put on tablets, but I got off medication in 8 months.... managed for a few years till I became careless and ended up on insulin last october.... after 4 months of exercise, diet and weight loss I was taken off lantus and two doses of novorapid insulin yesterday..

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Back in 2015 I had increased my nightly injection of slow acting insulin to 126u! that still was not enough to keep my BS in check...I was also on 2000 mg of metformin and my Dr. added Januvia to my meds...! My A1c had inched up to 6.9! I weighted in at 320lbs. and had other medical problems beginning to show up, and my feet were beginning to go numb except that they also burned, not painfully, but was uncomfortable....I finely realized I was in trouble and had to do something!

Then I found this website in April of 2015, after doing a ton of reading and research on the Internet and this website, including buying the book 'Blood Sugar 101', I decided to give this LCHF eating a try. It was not a diet and I could eat fats, have a glass of wine or two, and snack on Pork Rinds or Pecans, if I wanted too...I thought "I can do this!!!

The rest is history...Over the next 8 months I lost over 50lbs. reduced my nightly insulin down to 26u, stopped taking Januvia. Dropped my blood pressure medication by 1/2, etc. etc. My doctor calls me the "Poster boy for older men with diabetes"! All of my blood work and health related issues cleared up, BP is great, My A1c dropped to 5.8! And over the last 3 years I have continued to improve...I am now weighing in at 250 and my energy levels over the last 3 years and continually improved. THIS HAS CHANGED MY LIFE!


So, you can probably reduce your medications by eating Low Carb High Fat food consumption. You may not be able to completely get off of everything, because, as a diabetic you body is not producing enough insulin, so most of us have to take something to offset that issue. But there are exceptions to this...

But if you decide to follow the Low Carb High Fat model, do not think of it as a "diet" or you will get hungry and in time breakdown from cravings, it is a permanent change in what you eat, not how much you eat...many 'newbies' leave out the "Fat" part of the formula....and most eventually fail. If you really drop most carbs, as you must, you will get real hungry/crave carbs...increase your fat intake as recommended in 'Blood Sugar 101'...then the magic will happen for you too...

Good Luck

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http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabete...ng-method.html a tried and true testing method
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb lists foods for LCHF

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"I was diagnosed in 2006 with an A1C of 13.2 and reading of over 500. I was put on Novolin and Metformin and all sorts of blood pressure and Cholesterol meds, even though I had neither high blood pressure or high cholesterol. Over the past few years, my A1c has been as low as 6.2 and as high as 7.7, mainly because my doctor constantly changes medications. Last year my creatinine readings went from normal to three times normal, HDL dropped, LDL and BP elevated, and a nephrologist determined that the elevation in readings was due to an allergic reaction to one of the medications. He made some adjustments and sent me for two ultra sounds.
At that point I was so disgusted with medications, side effects and seeing so much money going for meds, I dropped carbs to 45/day and loved the results. Everything dropped - weight, blood pressure. LVD dropped from 152 to 85. Only problem is as a former vegetarian, I ate little fat and protein. Dropping carbs and eating meat has not only made my kidneys work harder, I now have gallstones. I am currently taking 35-40 units of Toujeo daily and trying to balance a diet with low fat, carbs and protein. If what you're saying is true, that low carb isn't going to be effective without higher fat, I'm at a loss as to what to do. I have about as much faith in doctors as I have in meds and big pharma. Would love comments from anyone who wants to control type 2 with diet and exercise. Thank you."

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Back in 2015 I had increased my nightly injection of slow acting insulin to 126u! that still was not enough to keep my BS in check...I was also on 2000 mg of metformin and my Dr. added Januvia to my meds...! My A1c had inched up to 6.9! I weighted in at 320lbs. and had other medical problems beginning to show up, and my feet were beginning to go numb except that they also burned, not painfully, but was uncomfortable....I finely realized I was in trouble and had to do something!

Then I found this website in April of 2015, after doing a ton of reading and research on the Internet and this website, including buying the book 'Blood Sugar 101', I decided to give this LCHF eating a try. It was not a diet and I could eat fats, have a glass of wine or two, and snack on Pork Rinds or Pecans, if I wanted too...I thought "I can do this!!!

The rest is history...Over the next 8 months I lost over 50lbs. reduced my nightly insulin down to 26u, stopped taking Januvia. Dropped my blood pressure medication by 1/2, etc. etc. My doctor calls me the "Poster boy for older men with diabetes"! All of my blood work and health related issues cleared up, BP is great, My A1c dropped to 5.8! And over the last 3 years I have continued to improve...I am now weighing in at 250 and my energy levels over the last 3 years and continually improved. THIS HAS CHANGED MY LIFE!


So, you can probably reduce your medications by eating Low Carb High Fat food consumption. You may not be able to completely get off of everything, because, as a diabetic you body is not producing enough insulin, so most of us have to take something to offset that issue. But there are exceptions to this...

But if you decide to follow the Low Carb High Fat model, do not think of it as a "diet" or you will get hungry and in time breakdown from cravings, it is a permanent change in what you eat, not how much you eat...many 'newbies' leave out the "Fat" part of the formula....and most eventually fail. If you really drop most carbs, as you must, you will get real hungry/crave carbs...increase your fat intake as recommended in 'Blood Sugar 101'...then the magic will happen for you too...

Good Luck


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Chrystal...I did not say that eating low carb without increasing your fat intake ,

" isn't going to be effective without higher fat"

What I did say is "many 'newbies' leave out the "Fat" part of the formula....and most eventually fail. If you really drop most carbs, as you must, you will get real hungry/crave carbs...and eventually increase your fat intake"


In fact if you read other posts on this subject you will find some who tell us they went low carb and managed it without eating more fat. But, I believe they are the exceptions....


As for exercise, including this in your lifestyle will certainly over the long run, help you control your diabetes and improve your overall health, if done correctly. And I believe this is different for all of us.

If I do intense workouts or workout to long, my blood sugar spikes high. Therefore, I avoid this type of workout... Others, especially those taking fast acting insulins before meals, have to monitor their blood sugars while working out, as they can have a dangerous drop in blood sugars. So as you start a program monitor yourself until you know how you react.

For me, I avoid intense workouts. I swim at the YMCA for 30 to 40 minutes, 3-4 times a week, doing the Breast Stroke, which for me is a good workout and does not spike my BS over 140...yet it does all I want it to do for my cardiovascular system, weight control, and mental health!

On the website recommended above. Blood Sugar 101" There is a whole chapter on Exercise.......I suggest you review this carefully and also get an ok, from your Doctor prior to starting a workout program....

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