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Old 03-02-2020, 02:24   #1
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I keep reading that diabetics are the 2nd most at risk to die from this virus.

Anyone understand why ? If one is in good control I guess I do not follow the risk.

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I do think they're referring to uncontrolled diabetics of which there sadly are so many.

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I do think they're referring to uncontrolled diabetics of which there sadly are so many.
Hopefully that's the case - it's hard separating the facts from fiction but it appears most people who have died from this were already in very rough shape from other medical complications. Uncontrolled diabetes would certainly be a factor.

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Jenny Ruhl posted this on her bloodsugar101 Facebook page.

Folks, by now you have probably heard it repeated many times that the people most likely to die from this new coronavirus have preexisting conditions that include diabetes.This is because prolonged exposure to high blood sugars damages the small nerves that play an important role in the immune system. In the shorter term, blood that is full of glucose impedes the production and circulation of the white blood cells that fight infection and promote the growth of bacteria.

Because there has been almost zero testing in the US and will not be for likely another few weeks to a month, the actual prevalence of the virus is unknown. So now, more than ever, if you have high blood sugars you MUST get them down to normal levels.

You can do this. The key is to cut way back on starches and sugars, including the "plant based" ones that have become so trendy of late. Using the technique described below people have reported being able to bring down A1cs to the safe, normal range starting from as high as 13%.

I hear a lot of people opining that this is nothing more than another cold, and for all our sakes I would like to believe that is true. But so far it has show itself to be a "cold" that kills people with crappy immune systems, and unless your A1c is down in the 5% range, you should assume that includes you.

Use the technique described below now, and get your immune system back into working order BEFORE you need it!

https://www.bloodsugar101.com/how-to...ur-blood-sugar

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Is a fasting blood sugar of 8.8 (Canadian measurements) considered uncontrolled? I've been trying hard the last two weeks to eat smaller portion sizes. It may be too little too late...

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I have seen absolutely no data on the health conditions of those who have already died - it would be nice to know how many if any had any kind of diabetes. Anyone seen some hard numbers?

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Anyone seen some hard numbers?
I haven't yet.

I'd like to see more scientific explanations of why diabetes can make the complications of COVID-19 more serious. I mean, I have read that the virus does better in a higher-glucose environment and that makes sense to me from a biological standpoint. I have taken that to mean that having an A1c and random finger-stick readings not far from those of a non-diabetic works in my favor even if it does not remove it completely as a risk factor. But there may be factors beyond that which haven't even been identified. COVID-19 has been with us only a few months. It hasn't received tons of study yet.

Ditto for hypertension, also mentioned as a complicating factor. I have my BP well under control through medication (and diet and exercise). Does that put me at higher risk anyway or is that statement only for people with poorly-controlled hypertension? I haven't seen enough trustworthy documentation to clarify that for myself.

But I will admit to not looking quite that hard yet. I've been moderating my news intake because it's hard to find news that's not dominated by COVID-19 coverage and there's only so much of that I can handle right now.

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Is a fasting blood sugar of 8.8 (Canadian measurements) considered uncontrolled? I've been trying hard the last two weeks to eat smaller portion sizes. It may be too little too late...
It is never too late my friend. Take a look at fellow Canadian Dr. Jason Fung's substantial work with intermittent fasting which can significantly reduce BG by not eating all the time. Lots of science on this. starting with no food after 8 pm until noon (16-8 intermittent fasting) you will get lower readings followed by reduce carbs during your eating window= success. Sorry can't tell you what 8.8 means, I don't speak Canadian. Go for it.

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scneilson, let me help you (and others): conversion calculator. 8.8 mmol/L converts to about 159 mg/dL.

Kind of like the metric system, the mmol/L ("Canadian") scale actually is used everywhere in the world except in the U.S. Since this site is largely U.S.-centric, however, mg/dL is the measurement most commonly seen here.

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Thanks for the effort to educate me...spouse has tried for years with little success! BTW The JDRA reports on their website that as to type 1 DM folks: good BG control means one is not at higher risk of infection because of their DM, and if infected, if you have good BG control one with DM is not at higher risk of significant complications.

On the other hand...wait for it... you know what is next....if you are having chronic high BG, you are at greater risk for the virus infection, and then serious complications. Many of us guessed this without the expertise to actually know it, just as I guess this outcome applies to type 2s, without knowing it to be a fact.

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