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Old 12-23-2016, 07:42   #1
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I remember some time ago there were some changes here at this forum. As I recall, change in ownership was involved and at least one controversial moderator was "exiled". Discussion was hot and long with a lot of opinions on a lot of sides.

My question is: Since those changes is the overall activity and vitality of the site and its forums up or down?

Just casually observing, it seems to have gone a little stale.

Sometimes what looks "unpleasant" like people passionately debating (or "arguing" if you will) their positions is actually more of a blessing since in the end, these forums thrive or perish based mostly on "traffic" and level of activity and for better or for worse, those things increase activity. There's more than a few virtually dead diabetic forums out there!

IMO, moderators need to have a VERY precise definition of what constitutes "ad hominem" (as well as "off-topic") and NEVER do anything to stifle debate unless/until it descends to that level. I'm no way saying that they aren't doing a good job, I just would hate to see yet another forum go into the doldrums which in my experience and opinion is almost always caused by over-zealous and/or not entirely neutral moderation.

May this forum continue to thrive (and increase).

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Old 12-23-2016, 08:21   #2
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I would have to agree. All the excitement apparently happened while I was gone backsliding... I seem to have returned right after things quieted down and it appears that many of the most active members from before had disappeared. People like me seem to be a part of the problem... I'm here every day and I read virtually every new post, but I rarely contribute - stats of views, etc show there must be many like me and I think we need to make a point of posting more often, even when we don't feel like we have anything new to add. Thanks for making us take a look at it... if we want an active conversation, we need to all chip in a bit more and not leave it up to the few reliable posters.

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Old 12-23-2016, 09:27   #3
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I can say that there is no over-moderation. The only posts we have removed have been spam or advertising-related.

I've been puzzled too, when I see a number of people logged in, but nobody answering other people's questions, contributing or starting new threads.

Thanks for raising the issue, Salim, because like you, I'd like to see DF thrive as well. Maybe if everyone who reads this thread starts contributing again, it will.

There is surely no shortage of diabetics who need information and support.

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I can say that there is no over-moderation.
Definitely not. It appears that the more aggressive and active members have left. I haven't seen any real debates or controversies here since after the "blow-up". Probably because most all members here now are in consensus about most issues.

New people are registering all the time but only a few post. For those who do, we are still helping people gain control of their diabetes.

Let's hope 2017 will be a year for growth here.

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I can't answer your question Salim because I don't know if where we are today is because of things you mention or if they were already heading this way prior. I know as a member I was unaware of the change of forum ownership and don't think many others were either. I do know I was turned off by several things happening before this year and wondered how a certain clique could post certain things apparently never to be chastised over, and who, if anyone, moderated the moderators. I was thinking things were already starting to slack off before the more recent events leading up to the exodus of moderators, but things did pick up during that brief period.

I think the increase earlier this year was prompted by the dramatics that was going on at the time. Kind of like a thing I had with watching a California preacher I stumbled across when I had my big dish satellite receiver. Gene Scott, he had his own satellite channel that was on 24 hours a day. He smoked cigars and pipes, ranted about not getting enough donations, promised not to teach anything else until a money goal was met, and showed videos of his high dollar gaited horses while waiting on the phone pledges to come in. My interest was peeked by his behavior, it wasn't a spiritual interest, I just had to check daily for a little while to see what else was going to happen and to see if he was ever going to preach/teach.

True, no shortage of diabetics, the number is growing daily and will continue as long at the medical profession keeps singing the same old song. I have wondered have they added a new verse, advising to stay away from forums.

Agree with moon about there not being over moderation. I feel the heavy handed moderation of the past has gone. Some of it was needed but a lot of it was not. Hopefully many of the members who have registered and never have posted will do so, as well as more of the guest that visit frequently will be becoming members.

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Old 12-23-2016, 21:52   #6
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In regards to asked and answered questions: I have no idea the membership here or how many of those members log onto DF on a daily basis...but it seems to me there's a core group here that I could swear...have a bell on their computer that goes off whenever there's a question posted here.

For members that aren't here at the crack of dawn...existential of one's own experience with the question...their reply can only be redundant. For instance; let's say Fred lives in Florida. Fred asks a question just before he leaves for work at 8 o'clock EST. Jane, who comes here every morning just after her cheese & tea and lives in Virginia (same time zone), jumps on that question like a bum on a bologna sandwich. Her answer, quite complete and pretty much covers everything.

At 8 o'clock CST...Art logs in to see what's new. Art's been a diabetic veteran for 30 years...pretty much has seen it all. Art likes to help...that's why he's a member. Art sees that again, Jane & Alice & Pete have replied, as they do to every question...so, Art logs out and thinks, "Meh...what am I doin' here?"

In my opinion...no one that comes here for advice is bleeding to death. This isn't the ER! I know you're anxious to help...but if you want others to contribute you'll have to give them a chance. No one wants to be a contributor when all they can say is, "Yeah...what they said!"

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In regards to asked and answered questions: I have no idea the membership here or how many of those members log onto DF on a daily basis...but it seems to me there's a core group here that I could swear...have a bell on their computer that goes off whenever there's a question posted here.

For members that aren't here at the crack of dawn...existential of one's own experience with the question...their reply can only be redundant. For instance; let's say Fred lives in Florida. Fred asks a question just before he leaves for work at 8 o'clock EST. Jane, who comes here every morning just after her cheese & tea and lives in Virginia (same time zone), jumps on that question like a bum on a bologna sandwich. Her answer, quite complete and pretty much covers everything.

At 8 o'clock CST...Art logs in to see what's new. Art's been a diabetic veteran for 30 years...pretty much has seen it all. Art likes to help...that's why he's a member. Art sees that again, Jane & Alice & Pete have replied, as they do to every question...so, Art logs out and thinks, "Meh...what am I doin' here?"

In my opinion...no one that comes here for advice is bleeding to death. This isn't the ER! I know you're anxious to help...but if you want others to contribute you'll have to give them a chance. No one wants to be a contributor when all they can say is, "Yeah...what they said!"

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I've been giving some thought to what Bounty said and I have to agree in part with his observation. Although I have observed that sometimes 24 hrs or more pass before anyone responds to a newbie's intro, which makes it tempting to jump in. I'm thinking that responses that relay personal experience are of great value. As is keeping it brief.

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I started on this site back in April/May of 2015 so I joined a month or two before this happened. I definitely feel the activity level is of posts is down, but the quality of what and who is posting is better I think. Less jabber and more sharing of experiences and advise.

I really did not have a problem with the old moderators (not by age) or any of the current ones. I have locked horns with a moderator or two, but never felt they were being abusive and in most cases I knew I had stretched the rules a bit on a comment or two. (the devil made me do it)....

Overall I think this website serves the people who use it, primarily diabetics! It has changed my life and I believe lengthened my life and the quality of my life. Hard to prove, but if I feel that way, that is a wonderful gift....

Thanks to all who participate....I have been less active than normal due to a death in our family in November followed by the holidays, I hope to be more active going forward.....

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As long as people who are asking for help, receive it, then I'm happy.

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