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Old 08-19-2012, 19:21   #1
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Hi, all. Brand new to the forum, and delighted to have found you! I have not actually been diagnosed, because my doctor is an idiot. But I know better, and I'm on a vlc/hf diet to keep my bs within normal range. My morning sugars are a tad high, around 105-112, and I'm not sure what to do about that. I had hoped that keeping my carbs down would handle that, but evidently 'tis not to be.

I was introduced to your site by an active member who had such glowing things to say about y'all. Since I respect her opinion a great deal, I thought I'd come on over and jump in the pool. I'm very grateful to be in conversation with kindred souls!

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We're glad you came on over. This is truly the best place for diabetes support - and suggestions for related difficulties.

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Hi, all. Brand new to the forum, and delighted to have found you! I have not actually been diagnosed, because my doctor is an idiot. But I know better, and I'm on a vlc/hf diet to keep my bs within normal range. My morning sugars are a tad high, around 105-112, and I'm not sure what to do about that. I had hoped that keeping my carbs down would handle that, but evidently 'tis not to be.

I was introduced to your site by an active member who had such glowing things to say about y'all. Since I respect her opinion a great deal, I thought I'd come on over and jump in the pool. I'm very grateful to be in conversation with kindred souls!
Hello there and to the club none of us wanted to join.

Given your doctor is not going to help until you get into trouble, your decision to manage your condition yourself is the only sensible one.

Cutting carbs does work - but sometimes you have to cut them very drastically to get an impact. The other trick is to identify the item that's causing the issue. For that you need a meter. If you don't have one, then that has to be your first investment. (If you're in the US - Walmart Relion meters seem to be great value for money - but as a humble Scotsman, I can't speak from experience on that )

Next, you want to spend a few minutes looking at Blood Sugar 101 . The author, Jenny Ruhl is a diabetic and her site is a goldmine of information on this d.... condition - well worth a few minutes exploration.

Back to spotting your problem foods. As Jenny explains on her site, step one is to see what your current diet is doing. Test just before you start, then 1 hour and 2 hours after the meal. Any nasty spikes? Eliminate something and run the tests again. Fairly quickly you will see the problem food.

On your fasting numbers, they unfortunately tend to be the last to go wrong and also the last to settle back below the line. However even 112 isn't too bad but I agree with you, you do want to knock that back down to below the 100 mark but that can be allowed to take a week or two.

Good luck and stick with it - you'll nail it in the end!

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Thanks, Veejay and John. I'm happy to be here.

Jenny Ruhl is my goddess, and I do have a Relion meter, which, other than my morning bs, I've been lax about using lately. Thanks for the reminder. It's easy to assume that because I'm eating vlc my bs is in good shape, but maybe not.

I'm trying the ketosis diet, and I was amazed at how much protein I was eating. It's very hard to cut back, when a "normal" serving of meat is 8-10 ounces! I was afraid I would be very hungry cutting my protein back to such small amounts (around 75-85g per day), but as long as I kept my fat intake high I never saw a hungry moment. I kept it up for about a month, toward the end of which time my morning sugars dipped below 100 for the first time in months, but then I got lazy. Although my fat intake is still pretty high, and my carbs are most assuredly low, my protein intake has snuck up, and I'm sure that's part of the problem.

Dang, I guess the answer is, as my goddess keeps saying, "test, test test."

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I'm trying the ketosis diet; I kept it up for about a month, toward the end of which time my morning sugars dipped below 100 for the first time in months.
I wonder if I could guess who that active member is . . . <pondering . . . >

I found the same results when I got into ketosis - my morning numbers dropped significantly!

We're delighted to have you, pj - good job taking the bull by the horns whether or not your doc knows sic 'em!




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Hi, and welcome to the forum!!

You are wise to grab the bull by the horns and get control of this before things get out of hand. Shame on your dr for not taking you seriously! But then on the other hand, not having that dx in your chart, might be a good thing too. It will mean that you will have to pay for your supplies, but WalMart has some great prices that can help on that front.

Until you figure out your safe foods, your meter will be your new bff! Test, test, test, and adjust your diet by the results. It is a lot of work at first, but soon you will have a bunch of meals/foods that you know are safe and you won't need to test as much.

Glad you stopped in to say hello, looking forward to getting to know you!



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Welcome to the forum!

You seem to be well ahead of the curve, and once again my envy rears its head when I see someone who has a heads-up about their diabetes before it spirals into never-never land.

You also seem to know what you need to do - that 'testing' thing - to help nail down what the fasting issue could be, or at least get a view on what's happening during the day. I've found protein to be my problem also, and when I stopped recording everything it was so easy to creep up. Although still in ketosis, my fasting number did creep by 10 points when I loosened the rein a tad on my protein.

Glad you joined us!

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Hello pj and welcome to the forum. As others have said, it's the protein that becomes the problem fairly soon into a LCHF/ketogenic diet. I'd got my fasting BG down to good levels (4.2 - 5.0 mmol/L) but when I got really serious about my F:P:C ratio, started registering my food and limiting my proteins to below 0.6 grams per lb of lean body mass, my fasting BG came down to the lower end of the non-diabetic range (3.5-4.1 mmol/L) And I'm a full-blown diabetic, so you should find it even easier.

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Welcome! Glad you found us and hope to give you the advice you ask for. We're a group of serious diabetics and may well collectively know more than your doctor. Sounds like you are doing well, so just keep it up and things will settle down a lot for you! Good knowing you!




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Old 08-19-2012, 23:51   #10
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Thanks, all, for the warm welcome. I already feel like I'm among my own kind. I've spent a chunk of today checking out the forum, and yep, you're definitely my peeps!

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