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Old 09-21-2012, 01:29   #1
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Hi everyone. I've been reading and reading here on this forum, and in other places such as Blood Sugar 101 for several weeks now. I have not been officially diagnosed (yet) but my FBG has been creeping up from the 80's to the low 90's to the high 90's over the last few years of physical exams. Several weeks ago I dug out the home BG meter I bought quite some time ago and oops - FBG in the 120's and BG shooting over 140 after meals, and once over 200 after a lot of carbs.

From what I have read here my numbers might not seem all that scary to some, but they are most definitely NOT "normal."

My Dad died on July 2 this year of complications from D. He never (I mean NEVER) went to the doctor for check ups until his brother had a heart attack when my Dad was about 67. At that doc visit, they discovered my Dad had raging high blood sugar and no telling how long it had been that way. Anyway....it was very difficult to watch my Dad die as he did - on a slow road to hell from age 67 to age 79. Bypass surgeries. Toe amputations. Crumbling spine. Crazy anxiety and mood swings. Pain and agony.

Anyway....I don't want to die like that.

I am 54 now. I started having serious weight issues after age 40 which looking back, I think signaled a turn for the worse metabolically. Funny....I lost weight twice on low carb - only to gain it all back again once sugar crept back in. I am a sugar ADDICT! Once I start I absolutely can't stop. I only mention these things because I suspect they were warning signs that all is not right on the inside. I was also diagnosed hypothyroid several years ago and take Naturethroid for that.

Since starting to read here and other places I have been doing a lot of experimenting with foods and my BG meter. There is no doubt I need to fully accept that my BG is NOT normal, and that I need to eat a low carb diet to control it. (and exercise - that is far easier for me to control than my diet has been!)

I haven't posted here up to this point because I guess I was hoping it wasn't so. I was hoping that when I saw a "good" number, it meant I really didn't have a problem. But I know in my heart that isn't true. My BG is not normal. I hope you all can help me accept the truth in that, and just move on a focus on the healthiest lifestyle to keep it under control.

I'm so glad I found this forum and feel like I already know a few of you just from reading your many supportive posts. I thank you for just being here which has sure given me a lot of hope - in between my denial episodes, LOL!

My next physical is in December. My doctor is very cool and will work with me to get whatever blood tests, etc. I ask for. What tests should I ask for? She always runs the metabolic panel (so will have FBG). Sometimes the lipid panel. I'm thinking also A1C. What else would you try to get?

Thanks!

Lizzy

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Welcome aboard and from "lurkdom"!

Wow. Sound like you have a good grasp of the situation and understand things quite well. Wouldn't expect otherwise from the history you've provided.

As fat as tests go, a glucose tolerance test will give you the best indication of how you're doing. The fasting test and a1c may not show how carb intolerant you are.

You can do a home glucose tolerance test using a cup of rice or a bagel and testing and record your readings about every 30 minutes for 3 hours. Make sure to show those values to your doctor.

Other than those ideas you've got a good start on this.

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Hi everyone. I've been reading and reading here on this forum, and in other places such as Blood Sugar 101 for several weeks now. I have not been officially diagnosed (yet) but my FBG has been creeping up from the 80's to the low 90's to the high 90's over the last few years of physical exams. Several weeks ago I dug out the home BG meter I bought quite some time ago and oops - FBG in the 120's and BG shooting over 140 after meals, and once over 200 after a lot of carbs.
We could be twins! Mine, too, have been creeping up. In Spring, I was where you are with my post-prandial numbers, but now they spike well over 140 (often 150, 160, 170), and I now have almost a handful of over-200s when I've eaten more than 30 carbs in a meal.

Like you, I'm aware that some people think these numbers aren't that bad (some would probably LOVE these numbers), but I want to stop -- or slow -- the progression as much as I can.

Here's to a successful battle for both of us!

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Honestly, if you're spiking into the 170's and even 200's with 30g of carbs...

... I wouldn't bother doing an OGTT (Oral Glucose Tolerance Test). The OGGT is done with 75g of a glucose solution...

If you can hit the 200's with 30+g of carb in a meal combined with fat/protein, imagine what 75g of pure glucose alone will do...

But that's just my opinion.

Sounds like you have a good grasp of where you are, and that you need to turn it around! Once you lose weight and get your numbers to a healthy level, the key is to MAINTAIN.

Diabetes is with us forever, regardless of how "improved" our numbers get. If you can make it a lifelong commitment to eat healthy, low-carb meals and do regular exercise, there is no reason for you to suffer what your dad did!

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Welcome Lizzy,
IMO low carbing is not only for diabetics. So whether you are one or not, this lifestyle will serve you well. You do have a good handle on the situation so there is no need to tell you what to do or what not to do. I watched my father die in much the same way due to D complications. Do keep a watch & take care.

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Turn around, let me pat you on the back for catching your D early on. A lot of us here went years before we found out. A lifestyle change for you right now might be all thats needed to bring things back to normal.

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Welcome! I have hypothyroidism as well, and I did lose weight on the Carbohydrate Addict's Diet way back when, but it sold itself on the "reward meal" so I never did cut the carb cravings.

An A1C is definitely very important!

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Welcome! Yeah, you are in the early stages, but you can gain control and avoid the fate your father faced, but only if you get your diet under control. Do you need to lose weight? I put myself on the Atkins diet and am still eating that way with occasional breaks now that everything is under control both weight wise and BG wise. I should add, moderate breaks.

As a diabetic friend and I said tonight people just don't get it that carbohydrates are our enemy both for diabetes and weight as well as blood lipids. It's amazing, but it really is true.

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You can do a home glucose tolerance test using a cup of rice or a bagel and testing and record your readings about every 30 minutes for 3 hours. Make sure to show those values to your doctor.
I've thought about doing that in a controlled way - maybe I should just do it and collect the data. Hmmmm... I know I am not very carb tolerant but sometimes having hard evidence under my nose has a big impact. As an example, I've struggled for the last 2 years (since the sugar reintroduction) getting totally off sugar and grains. Off, on. Off, on. Etc. repeat. However when I saw FBG over 120, I haven't had a bite of sugar or wheat. (only a few weeks, but FAR longer than I've gone without for any stretch in 2 years!)

I won't have any trouble getting my current doc to work with me. She is not a diabetes expert (yet), but she is the most open minded doc I have ever worked with. If I suggest something she will look into it and work with me. She is extremely supportive of low carb diets, and in general looking hard at natural ways to address problems while still seeing the value of medications where appropriate. She really is amazing and I don't know how in the heck I'm going to replace her when she gets ready to retire.

Anyway...sorry for that off track ramble. There are some DH foods in the house (rice for sure) so maybe I will do that today and just get the data and move on.

Thanks for prompting me to think about doing an (un)official GTT.

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We could be twins! Mine, too, have been creeping up. In Spring, I was where you are with my post-prandial numbers, but now they spike well over 140 (often 150, 160, 170), and I now have almost a handful of over-200s when I've eaten more than 30 carbs in a meal.

Like you, I'm aware that some people think these numbers aren't that bad (some would probably LOVE these numbers), but I want to stop -- or slow -- the progression as much as I can.

Here's to a successful battle for both of us!
Indeed! I will keep an eye out for your posts so we can keep tabs on each other! I totally understand where you are coming from.

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