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Old 05-01-2014, 18:30   #11
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sI have not yet seen an endo (waiting for my appointment) to find out if I am type 1 or type 2. How would l know this besides from an endo diagnosing?
There are blood tests for this.

GAD Antibodies test: Type 1 is an autoimmune disease and, therefore, the body produces antibodies, which can be measured. The presence of these antibodies confirms T1.

The absence of antibodies confirms T2.

C-Peptide. There is another test for the amount of insulin one is producing by measuring the C-peptide which is also produced along with the insulin (which can't be measured). The higher the reading the more insulin resistance (for T2). A low amount of insulin produced will indicate just how much pancreatic function one has. One with a low reading usually is taking insulin, T1 or T2.

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So what are you waiting for? Take the members' advice and start slashing carbs right now - today - and increase your fats consumption as much as possible. You don't have to wait for diagnosis to start lowering your blood sugar. If it turns out that you are type 1 or 1.5 (LADA) then the doc may put you on insulin, but there's no reasonable excuse for waiting any longer to start controlling the elements which are within your own power to control.

When is the appointment with the endo?




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As a start, be sure to check out these sites:

Blood Sugar 101

LCHF for Beginners | DietDoctor.com

They contain a lot of great info about diabetes and the way to stay healthy.

Many of us here follow a low carb, high fat diet. It keeps your BG low and is heart healthy! Yes, you have been deceived all these years.

The Fat Question: Why fat doesn’t make you fat | Eat Naked Now

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since finding out I am diabetic (4/25), my glucose has not been below 250 even at fasting, and generally hovers at 350, so waiting until I get to 140 is just not possible. I have not yet seen an endo (waiting for my appointment) to find out if I am type 1 or type 2.

How would l know this besides from an endo diagnosing?
I'm sorry to not have been clear about noting the rise in blood sugar. Test before you eat something. Say it reads 180 or higher. Don't eat, drink water (a full glass) and wait. Test again in 1 to 2 hours. If you are still higher than you were, drink some more water. Wait some more. Just because your carb addicted body wants food doesn't mean it needs it.
I found that eating fewer than 6 hours apart means high blood sugar that lingers. Maybe that is happening to you. Just because you are hovering around 350 doesn't mean you can't lower your levels. Pick a number under 350 and work toward it. Try eating only low carb meals when you eat. It really doesn't matter at this point whether you are a type 1 or 2.
Did you not get any advice when you were diagnosed?

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Thanks for all the great advice. I have not touched sugar or carbs since diagnosis, following the advice as closely as possible. Have said goodbye to it all, determined that I can make a difference. But 4 days of high fat low carb has not shown a change.
I am still waiting for the endo to call me with an appt. They say it may take 5-7 days to schedule even though my doc. put in an urgent referral.
The only advice I got was to monitor 3 times a day. This forum has been my best advice and I am really sticking to it.
I do not have a problem regulating carbs, but I have been a vegetarian most of my life and have a hard time with the high meat recommendations. I have been eating mostly cheese, olives, salads, tofu and eggs. Trying to figure out if lentils are too high, but everything I eat seems to keep me high.
Maybe I am expecting results to happen to quickly? How fast should I see a change in GB? I am also on Metformin 500 1xday.

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Lentils, peas, beans are no-nos. One cup of lentils has about 40g carbs. I don't know if tofu causes problems for anyone. Everyone is different, and the only way to know how your body responds is to test.

Cheese, olives, and eggs are great. Some salads are good, especially egg salad or tuna, if you eat fish.

I do remember when I started this way of eating, I needed to drink more water than usual. Coffee and tea (I prefer decaffeinated) are good, especially with hwc or coconut oil.

I do wish we could be more helpful...

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Just a small point - LCHF is not high meat (it's high fat). In fact, you can do it well without any meat, although probably not without dairy and eggs, which you say you do eat, so that should be good. (One of our members, Foxl, is vegetarian eating dairy and eggs. You might want to look at her posts in the diet section and recipe section).

Do you know how many carbs you are eating now per meal?

The high numbers with very low carbs (less than 10g per meal) does seem to point to T1 or impaired insulin response T2.

If you see your BG raising above 400, I think you should call your doctor and/or go to the ER. You don't want to go into DKA (diabetic ketoacidosis).

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I note you have only been doing this for 4 days. So GOOD FOR YOU for taking control of this. However, it IS a marathon and not a sprint.

Your body will take some time to adjust, and for your new nutritional intake to take effect. And you are on the starting dose of Metformin, which takes time to help clear up what's in your bloodstream now. As the dose ramps up, you should see your pre-prandials come down.

The only way I know of for an immediate change in your glucose numbers would be to take insulin.

So for now, test so you can see your starting number, then after you eat something non-carby, you should be seeing very little (if any) change in that number. If you see a 60-point rise or somesuch, check for hidden carbs.

Add olive oil, butter, avocado oil to your food, coconut oil to your hot beverages, and heavy whipping cream on top of everything. That should help with the cravings.

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And watch out for those salad dressings (prepared, not of your origin). Lots of 'hidden' carbs. Also, any "prepared" meats are suspect. Even bacon can have hidden carbs if it is "sugar-cured, etc." It takes at least a week for the metformin to kick in. Again, drink more water. (My family thinks I have excess thirst but it is my way of avoiding eating.) You can do this.

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Eating more fat was really hard for me to do! I really do put a big blob of coconut oil in my morning coffee with heavy cream. I use refined, since the unrefined tastes like coconut and makes me sick! I confess that used to sneak a pat of butter when I baked, now I take some as a snack! Seriously! I blob on the olive oil on my salads too.

You have received some excellent advice and the website referrals are good ones. I also recommend Dr. Richard K. Berstein's "The Diabetes Solution" should you find that you are Type 1, although it has excellent tips for types 2's as well. He has been a type 1 diabetic since he was a kid and he really has "walked the walk".

I am pre-diabetic and have been on the LCHF diet for the past three months. I read the referred website pages, purchased Dr. Berstein's book right after I received my diagnosis. My PCP just advised that I exercise more and reduce sugar. Since I was diagnosed with Celiac Disease last year, there was no way I was going to give up my gluten free cupcakes and cookies (I've always baked) without a fight.

Started testing after a purchase of a cheap meter and strips and yes, I have diabetes! Started the diet immediately after my initial tests. Blood sugars have stabilized, but do increase if I even eat a bowl of gluten free cereal!

I go next week for a three month follow-up and will ask for the necessary tests to determine if I have type 1 since I already have two autoimmune disorders (celiac and thyroiditis) and diabetes and celiac share the same genes! Ugh! But, type 2 does run in my family. I may just be one of the skinny and in shape ones.....

Hope things go well for you! Hang in there! Stick to the diet as it really works!

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