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Old 06-06-2014, 22:49   #31
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However I had one whole wheat, low carb BLT at home and my two hour number was 138 and 3 hour was 92.
I am of the opinion that if your 2-hour spike is 138, how high must your actual peak have been? You appear to be eating to your meter, but what goals do you have as peak numbers?

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Old 06-07-2014, 04:22   #32
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When people do that, they're only hurting themselves. I sure hope it's not something that happens often. I WANT to know how I'm doing, and what my sugars are, which is why I test so often. There's no value in fudging numbers.

Slightly off topic, but why is that diabetes educators, nurses and doctors tell you you don't need to cut carbs out of your diet, and give you allowances, etc. If that's incorrect? I have beento a dietician and a diabetes educator through my local hospital and got virtually the same information. Even if I don't get near those recommended levels, that's what is being taught.

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I am of the opinion that if your 2-hour spike is 138, how high must your actual peak have been? You appear to be eating to your meter, but what goals do you have as peak numbers?
I also checked at one hour, and it was lower, at 129. When is the peak? I was always taught between 1-2 hours.

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Old 06-07-2014, 04:39   #34
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Mbuster, thank you! I appreciate your kind words and encouragement. I have always heard starting out too strict can cause problems of it's own. Honestly, I think figuring out what works for YOU is the best advice. I imagine some people can eat 150 carbs a dayand stay well controlled, while some people need far less. I'm also sure not all cases of diabetes are created equal. I just want to do what's right for me, and learning all you guys have to say willonly help me to do that. Thank you!
I think the amount of carbs each person can handle without spiking is different per person. I'm able to eat more carbs than others and don't have problems with spiking over 140. Like everyone says just test and you'll eventually figure out way works and what doesn't.

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I also checked at one hour, and it was lower, at 129. When is the peak? I was always taught between 1-2 hours.
I've notice sometimes my one hour test is lower than the two or three hour test. Still in range so I don't worry about it too much. I've just learned sometimes the one hour is not the peak.

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Peak tends to be a pretty personal value. For me, it also depends on what I ate. I have seen other here who have the same experience as I, in that a fatty meal delays the spike. When I eat a fruit, I start testing at 30 minutes, as they spike me faster. Grains, evil things, give me a spike at about 3 hours, that can last for another 2 hours, and throw my numbers off for days.

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Old 06-07-2014, 05:26   #37
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Slightly off topic, but why is that diabetes educators, nurses and doctors tell you you don't need to cut carbs out of your diet, and give you allowances, etc. If that's incorrect? I have beento a dietician and a diabetes educator through my local hospital and got virtually the same information. Even if I don't get near those recommended levels, that's what is being taught.
Not actually all that off-topic. Diabetes educators are taught to tow the party line of the ADA. Same with dieticians. Welcome to the rebel team.

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TCh 196 : 146 : 208 : 211
Tri 220 : 107 : 108 : 96
HDL 48 : 47 : 58 : 61
LDL 104 : 78 : 128 : 130
LDL Pattern A!

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It is the current 'party line'. Scary isn't it? Who would believe they are misleading us?

They are sadly.




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I've notice sometimes my one hour test is lower than the two or three hour test. Still in range so I don't worry about it too much. I've just learned sometimes the one hour is not the peak.
Yes, different people peak at different times, but as regards eating to our meters, if your two-hour reading is higher than the one-hour reading, don't stop testing! Either your second phase insulin response is failing, and cannot take up the slack anymore, or something in the meal is spiking you high and long, and it behooves you to pay attention in order to remove that food from the lineup. In any case, it is prudent to continue testing until your levels ARE dropping.




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I really don't understand what the motivation would be to mislead people. Not saying they aren't, just don't understand the WHY. Honestly, regardless of what you're told, it makes sense to me to do what works. I guess out goes back to adage " if someone told you to jump off a bridge, would you?" I guess what bothers me, is that people still rely on the medical profession to guide them in the correct direction, and it's dangerous when they don't .

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