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Old 07-16-2014, 08:45   #1
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Does anyone have a situation like me? I've been just under 300 for a few days. I Woke up at a level of 266 so I went for a 6 mile jog. Later in the day I went for another jog, this one was for 4 miles. My blood sugar level went down to 181! Then I ate dinner. Now before going to bed my level is 365. Wtf. I've been pretty much following my nutritionist's calorie / carb plan.

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Welcome to the Forum, Jar!

You'll find lots of info, support and the best kind of nosiness here.

Please give us some details on your nutritionist's plan. We should be able to help you tweak it. (My guess is that s/he's recommending more carbs than you can tolerate. This happens a lot.)

Are you on any meds? If so, please let us know.

In the meantime, here are 2 links on diabetes and food that you may find helpful:
Here are 2 links you may find helpful:


Please read a lot, ask lots of questions and ... most of all ... please keep us posted!

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I've been pretty much following my nutritionist's calorie / carb plan.
It could be that, that is the problem. Read more threads on the forum and you will have a better understanding of your condition. The sites referred by Shalynne are a good place to start.

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Jar? I would bet the farm that your nutritionist's diet is the cause of your problems. Way too many of us have fallen into the same trap, and it has become common knowledge among well-controlled diabetics that the professionals don't know sic 'em about what we should eat.

Carbs are what raises blood sugar, and the way to stop that from happening is to stop eating carbs. Replace the carbs in your meals with natural fats - both saturated and unsaturated. The links you've already been provided will explain further.

So yes, answering your first question, many of us have had a situation like yours, and we solved it by eliminating carbs from our meals. Jogging will help your overall well-being, but what you put in your mouth is the real factor in lowering blood sugar. Even if you couldn't exercise at all, you could manage your blood sugar with diet alone, just as several of us do who cannot exercise to any great degree.




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My blood sugar level went down to 181! ...... following my nutritionist's calorie / carb plan.
Great advice already given. I'll comment on this one thing. Many diatitians, nutritionists, doctors and the ADA (American Diabetes Association) recommend that a diabetic keep their BG under 180. Well, given that research has shown that BG over 140 will cause organ damage, it would be wise for the diabetic to keep their BG below 140.

That is what most of the members on this forum strive for. Below 140 AT ALL TIMES - which means most of the time except right after meals their their BG is much lower than that. Some members feel that 140 is tempting fate and have an upper limit of 120 at all times. "Better safe than sorry".

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Great advice already given. I'll comment on this one thing. Many diatitians, nutritionists, doctors and the ADA (American Diabetes Association) recommend that a diabetic keep their BG under 180. Well, given that research has shown that BG over 140 will cause organ damage, it would be wise for the diabetic to keep their BG below 140.

That is what most of the members on this forum strive for. Below 140 AT ALL TIMES - which means most of the time except right after meals their their BG is much lower than that. Some members feel that 140 is tempting fate and have an upper limit of 120 at all times. "Better safe than sorry".
I would like to add that at my Diabetes Class the other day, the instructor gave us two separate guidelines: One from the ADA (American Diabetes Association) and one from the ACE (American College of Endocrinologists) The instructor said they follow the ADA.

Here is what each says:

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Fasting 70-130
2 hours after meal less than 180
Bedtime 110-150

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Fasting 70-110
2 hours after meal less than 140
Bedtime less than 120


I'm going with the endocrinologists.

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Actually it's the AACE ( American Association of Clinical Endocrinologist ) and you can see all of there recommendations here :
https://www.aace.com/resources/find-an-endocrinologist

I read recently , but I don't remember where, that the ADA guidelines were developed in the early 80's when personal bg meters were rare and they were worried mostly about people going low. Numbers were set high to prevent this and have never been changed since. Kind of a familiar story with the ADA.

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Actually it's the AACE ( American Association of Clinical Endocrinologist ) and you can see all of there recommendations here :
https://www.aace.com/resources/find-an-endocrinologist

I read recently , but I don't remember where, that the ADA guidelines were developed in the early 80's when personal bg meters were rare and they were worried mostly about people going low. Numbers were set high to prevent this and have never been changed since. Kind of a familiar story with the ADA.
Hah! I'm looking at the handout our instructor gave everyone and it says, "ACE". That class is filled with inaccuracies. :-)

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Thanks for the links.

I take 500 metformin right before breakfast and dinner. I am to limit my carbs to 60g for breakfast and lunch. For dinner I am allowed 75g of carbs.

The dinner that pushed me over the edge yesterday was 63g of carbs vs 75. I ate 2 tostada shells, 4oz tuna, lettuce greens, cranberry trail mix, fat free dressing, 2 jalapeņos, 1 cup jicama.

I woke up at a blood sugar level of 340 vs my bedtime level of 360.

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