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Old 10-10-2014, 19:43   #11
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Bugellen, I hate to say it, but I got so SICK of bacon and eggs. I even got sick of dinners for breakfast. I got sick of all forms of Keto pancakes for breakfast. I got sick of Keto Cheesecake and Chocolate Pecan Fudge for breakfast. So, I went to work in the kitchen and came up with Keto cereal a la Optimist style and the best coffee cake squares I've ever tasted. Yum!!! I'm sure I will get sick of that, as well.

Your blood sugars are extraordinary. I, too, was freed of all meds with the ketogenic diet. I constantly say that this place just saved my life. I just wish I can share it effectively with my family. I wish they would listen. I'm going to follow this nurse around on Sunday and I'm going to cringe and try to not yell, "Sacrilege!" Heh.. I'm not quite sure how I'm going to handle it, or if it's even a good idea. Who knows,.. maybe if I spend enough time with her (she is doing this for her PhD in Public Health) I can win her over. She seems genuine, so I don't see why not.

It's rather amazing that you became a nutritionist. Your curriculum must have been horrific; I know what they preach, and make no mistake, I have found most of them to border on being cultish. My daughter is in medical school and they garbage they tote in her Nutrition class is infuriating. And they are the first to say that it is not based in fact, I kid you not.

Very well on the cookbook. My daughter says that when she becomes a doctor in a couple of years that she will give it to all of her diabetic patients. Ha!


Stay strong, Bugellen. Keep those blood sugars down. I know it gets hard sometimes to tow the keto line. The message is getting out there thanks to passionate and caring people like yourself. Just remember, you come first, way before those you try to help. Take care of you.

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Old 10-10-2014, 19:55   #12
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Thanks Bree. I've gotten really good at defending myself in school discussions on IR, MEtS and diabetes.. I just reference everything I say and the naysayers stop talking. I've had professors with PhDs try to tell me that carbs are essential nutrients. I just roll my eyes and move on.

Good luck with the nurse, and congratulations to your daughter for persevering in Med school. And thanks again for the welcome, I truly appreciate the chance to participate.

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I haven't been reading this thread because of the title "former diabetic: It's a wonderful read and I'm glad I found it. But . . . once a diabetic , always a diabetic. I'm proof of it because I like you were diagnosed with low numbers . . . have to add the diabetes showed up with hyperthyroidism as well. That being said 20 years later I'm injecting insulin 4 times a day. So keep on keeping on forever.

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I haven't been reading this thread because of the title "former diabetic: It's a wonderful read and I'm glad I found it. But . . . once a diabetic , always a diabetic. I'm proof of it because I like you were diagnosed with low numbers . . . have to add the diabetes showed up with hyperthyroidism as well. That being said 20 years later I'm injecting insulin 4 times a day. So keep on keeping on forever.
Thank you Roxanne for sharing that. It's a good reminder to me to never say never.

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Hi and welcome, Bugellen. You and I are about the same place metabolically. I'm prediabetic, too, and doing everything possible, with a ketogenic Paleo diet to keep from progressing along the diabetic and Alzheimer's pathway.

And I so agree about the diabetic professionals!

Bree, maybe if you make a point of checking your BG during the trip, your nurse friend will see how your diet is keeping it under good control. Are you going to be able to find good food to eat on the trip?

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Hi and welcome, Bugellen. You and I are about the same place metabolically. I'm prediabetic, too, and doing everything possible, with a ketogenic Paleo diet to keep from progressing along the diabetic and Alzheimer's pathway.

And I so agree about the diabetic professionals!

Bree, maybe if you make a point of checking your BG during the trip, your nurse friend will see how your diet is keeping it under good control. Are you going to be able to find good food to eat on the trip?
Thanks Janknitz.
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Hi, Ellen --

I'm new around here, too. I was gestationally diabetic with my last two pregnancies -- one in 1989/'90 and the last one in 2005/'06. (I had my last baby boy just weeks before I turned 41.)

I can tell you that the standard of care changed *completely* within those 16 years. With my middle son, born 12/1990, I was told to eat *no sugar,*, scooted off to a RD's office who basically said to eat more veggies and *no sugar* and sent me on my way. No testing, except for what I would get in the doc's office during my prenatal appointments, and definitely no further advice on how things were going with my DX.

With my last son (biggest, best surprise of my life but also the cause of a metabolic meltdown of my entire endocrine system) I was given a meter, strips, a "diabetes management team", non-stress tests, the whole nine yards.

But still, I was told to eat 45 grams of carbs for my 3 meals per day and 15 grams in 2 snacks. Is it any wonder I ended up on insulin? We actually *celebrated* my getting down to a 7% A1C. <shudders>

With my personal GD history and my familial history -- which is rife with impaired glucose tolerance -- I was told I would have a 75% chance of having diabetes within 10 years of my son's birth. But as I was told here already, once the wolf is in the door, it's a done deal. It's how YOU deal with it that matters the most.

I have found a doctor that embraces the ketogenic diet as a management tool and she actually listens to me. (You wouldn't believe the horrified stares I got from previous professionals when I suggested 20-30g of carbs was what I ate for the day.)

I got lucky. But I am also taking the bull by the horns, as it were, and taking care of myself proactively rather than reactively. (After a spectacular pity party that lasted for 2 years.) It sounds like you're a very proactive person yourself!

I wanted you to know all that before I say welcome. So, welcome! There are a lot of very warm, knowledgeable people here.

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Hello Margilowry, thank you for your thoughts. I'm so glad to hear you found a physician that is supportive. I was reading a blog today in which people shared how they were diagnosed and treated after diagnosis and I was just appalled at how some of them were just let loose from the doctor's office with no direction and no one to help. How are people supposed to know what to do or even where to start looking? Not to mention being in a state of shock at the same time. I know doctors are busy, but sheez, that's not right. But maybe it IS worse to get bad information.

And believe me, I get those stares and stoney looks and worse all the time, so I'm not surprised.

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Hi and welcome, Bugellen. You and I are about the same place metabolically. I'm prediabetic, too, and doing everything possible, with a ketogenic Paleo diet to keep from progressing along the diabetic and Alzheimer's pathway.

And I so agree about the diabetic professionals!

Bree, maybe if you make a point of checking your BG during the trip, your nurse friend will see how your diet is keeping it under good control. Are you going to be able to find good food to eat on the trip?
Oh, I am bringing my 4 carb coffee cake creation. As for eating out, when necessary, I just order a salad of some sort, perhaps some grilled chicken or salmon. I used to be so nervous when I was first diagnosed, but I'm no longer in the least tempted by carby food, and I had to learn how to order in a pinch. For dessert, I usually bring my own, something easy to carry and delicious. Most anything goes well with coffee.. It's all about the company, right? It's people who matter, not food. Don't get me wrong, I love delicious food, but 'time and a place'. Truly, I am loving life these days, as it pertains to food, anyway.

And good idea on checking BGs! I'm going to bring my labs over the last two years, as well. Although that might be overkill. We'll see. I think she will be open.

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Hello Margilowry, thank you for your thoughts. I'm so glad to hear you found a physician that is supportive. I was reading a blog today in which people shared how they were diagnosed and treated after diagnosis and I was just appalled at how some of them were just let loose from the doctor's office with no direction and no one to help. How are people supposed to know what to do or even where to start looking? Not to mention being in a state of shock at the same time. I know doctors are busy, but sheez, that's not right. But maybe it IS worse to get bad information.

And believe me, I get those stares and stoney looks and worse all the time, so I'm not surprised.
Oh, I received the whole nine yards with a nutritionist to boot! The nutritionist told me that I would die on the ketogenic diet and called for a full out hospital intervention. It was... a nightmare. But, they couldn't argue with the numbers. From a 10.6 A1C and a fasting of 317 to what they consider normal blood sugars within a few weeks? There was no arguing. My next A1C was 5.0 four months later, then I was in the 4s.

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