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Old 01-02-2015, 23:52   #1
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Hello! I was diagnosed with Diabetes ten days ago, and confirmed Type 2 today by my Endocrinologist. I am 39 years old, and Diabetes is in my family, as my Grandfather had it, but I'm not sure what type he'd had. My doctor wrote me a scrip for Victoza, and I'm to start on a very small dose, then increase exponentially within a week up to 1.2 ... I am concerned about side effects, but I'd rather injection vs. a pill since I also have benign tumors on my liver. My liver functions are normal, but my doctor and I would rather not tax my liver unnecessarily. This is a whole new world for me, not only with getting used to testing and injecting myself, but not being able to eat so many of the (horrible and delicious) things I used to eat. I'm not even so upset about all that, because I simply have to eat what will keep me healthy. My issue is, I'm unsure sometimes about what I SHOULD be eating. Some things I've read conflict with some things my Endo has told me. It's a learning process, I know, but any tricks, tips or advice for a newbie? I don't have any food allergies at all, but I can't eat hot/spicy things. Thanks in advance for any info!

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Welcome to DF! From our collective experiences, what we find to be true relative to dietary management of our high blood sugar usually IS at odds with what our doctors tell us. The ADA & medical community still adhere to the erroneous but timeworn ethic that we need carbs. Thing is, we DON'T need carbs, and the more carbs we do eat, the higher our blood sugar. So the best way to maintain low blood sugar is not letting it get high to begin with. If we don't let it rise to begin with, we don't need all the pills & injections and can save our hard-earned money.

Here are links to the best guidance you'll ever find. What to eat, how to test, and everything else you ever wanted to know about diabetes. Get in there & go for it!




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Welcome to the club no one wants to join!

Can you tell us some more about yourself, specifically did your doctor or endo tell you your Hb A1c test results? And, when you test your blood glcose (BG), what results do you see?

The "how to test" link Shanny gave you is, in my opinion, crucial to getting a true understanding of what foods do to you BG levels. With that knowledge, you can tune and change what you eat with confidence that each change is really making a difference. I encourage you to follow the protocol until you know a whole lot more about what is happening.

Please ask questions, join discussions. This is a good place to learn.

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DXd myself with PP BG over 270
DX 12/13 with A1C 5.9
8/26/14 HbA1c 5.5
avg BG: 90 - 95 before meals, 100 - 110 one hour PP, 95 2 hours PP
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Thank you both for your replies, much appreciated. I will go study those links soon as I can. I'm not quite sure what results you are asking as the terminology is all very new to me, but in the ten days since I first found out, my highest reading was at my regular doc's office at 265, and my lowest was before lunch a couple of days ago at 157. We now know my body does produce some insulin, but obviously not enough. My regular doc told me I was probably Diabetic two to three months prior to seeing her for my symptoms, which were sudden intense thirst, increased urination, and such extreme fatigue. I also have a mild Vitamin D deficiency. I'm happy to share other info with you if you can better explain to me what you meant? Sorry, I feel really dense at the moment

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Thank you both for your replies, much appreciated. I will go study those links soon as I can. I'm not quite sure what results you are asking as the terminology is all very new to me, but in the ten days since I first found out, my highest reading was at my regular doc's office at 265, and my lowest was before lunch a couple of days ago at 157. We now know my body does produce some insulin, but obviously not enough. My regular doc told me I was probably Diabetic two to three months prior to seeing her for my symptoms, which were sudden intense thirst, increased urination, and such extreme fatigue. I also have a mild Vitamin D deficiency. I'm happy to share other info with you if you can better explain to me what you meant? Sorry, I feel really dense at the moment
Welcome and hello!

I would have to disagree with your doc on one point. You were probably showing signs of being diabetic for YEARS not months. It's just the accepted diagnostic tests miss these signs

Based on your readings a good old fashioned low carb high fat diet will suit nicely. Enjoy your bacon wrapped butter

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Okay, one thing we know about you is, because your liver is compromised, minimizing medications (even injected) is the best plan.

If you truly are T2 then there is reason to hope, with dietary changes and careful testing, you may be able to restrict the amount of medication you need to take. You may be able to manage your BG through diet and exercise alone.

And, at this point, you may or may not have too little insulin. BG test results will tell us more about that.

You have probably noticed no one is saying 'Eat this and it will all be better.' That is because (a) we recognize everyone has unique reactions to food - only BG tells what you can eat ingest, and (b) we hope you will spend time reading the links Shanny provided - the more you understand about what is happening, the more prepared you are to deal with it.

However, here is a test I find very useful.
  • Before a meal, take your BG level. This is a baseline. It may be high, it may be perfectly acceptable. It is important to know. Write it down.
  • Eat a perfectly ordinary meal. Do you usually eat cereal and milk for breakfast? A sandwich for lunch? Do it. And write down what you ate.
  • One hour after first bite, test your BG. Write it down.
  • Two h
ours after first bite, test your BG. Write it down.

Do not snack between meals.
  • Next meal, take your BG before eating. Eat a low carb meal. This means instead of a sandwich eat a salad of leafy greens with meat/protein, instead of cereal eat a scrambled egg with bacon. If you eat a salad, make sure the dressing low carb - oil & vinegar comes to mind. Basically, don't eat bread, grains, potato, rice, added sugar, or dessert.
  • One hour after first bite, test your BG. Write it down.
  • Two hours after first bite, test your BG. Write it down.

Hint: research has established any time BG goes over 140 mg/dl the body takes a hit and accumulates some damage.

I am not trying to get you below 140 with this test. I am trying to show you the value of planned testing plus a whole lot about how your BG reacts to carbs. I expect those two sets of numbers to be very different.

If you run the test, please share the results with us. We will be glad to help you learn to derive a lot of info from the results.

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avg BG: 90 - 95 before meals, 100 - 110 one hour PP, 95 2 hours PP

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Because of your liver, do you already eat some kind of restricted diet?

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8/26/14 HbA1c 5.5
avg BG: 90 - 95 before meals, 100 - 110 one hour PP, 95 2 hours PP
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Welcome, Peaceful

You've landed on your feet when you decided to join this forum. This is the best place to learn how to manage diabetes in a way that actually is working for real people. We all have one thing in common (other than we are all diabetics) and that is our determination to gain good control of our BG and keep it as near normal levels as we are able - and thereby to avoid diabetes complications.

Feel free to share your journey here in this thread. Ask questions, and feel free to vent when you like (boy, do we understand frustration, confusion, and sadness of having to make lifestyle changes). But we are also very good at encouraging and supporting folks so that they can succeed and come out on top of it all.

So, welcome to our "club".

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The A1C test that was mentioned is a blood test that indicates the average level of BG over a period of three months. If your doctor gave you a copy of your tests, you should be able to find it on the list.

An A1C above 6.5% is considered diabetic. Many newly diagnosed diabetics whose BG has been running high for a long time have an A1C much higher than that - all the way up to 13% and above.

You'll notice on many members' signatures (info at the bottom of their posts) a list of their A1C levels over time. You'll also notice that many started out high and after a period of time have managed to drop that level down into the 5% range, which is pretty much a non-diabetic range.

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Welcome peaceful,

I just wanted to say hat 6 months ago I was a insulin defendant type 2, following this board and the LCHF way,of eating I am totally off the insulin. Now we are all different and process carbs differently but for me it has been life changing. Good luck and please read the links and do your research.

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Wow guys, this is some amazing info, and a lot to take in My liver surgeon wanted me to lose weight because reducing gay

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