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Old 07-04-2015, 02:10   #11
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I just took the OGTT and my fasting came back at 82, but my 2 hour was 193.
Because of this statement. You're showing signs of not being able to process carbs properly. While you may be handle 30-40g a meal for now, how long it will last? It's best to play it safe and know you aren't going to run into issues rather than tempt fate.

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I'm not understanding why, if I eat a 30g carb meal and my 1-hour BG is 95, do I need to cut carbs to 20-50g a day? I'm at 45g of carbs today and all of my 1 and 2 hour readings have been in the 70s and 80s...
Also, why is it so important to eat high fat if I'm full with not so much fat?
Okay - you said any help would be appreciated, and we're trying to help. You should try to understand that we've been living this life and succeeding for many years, so I'm not sure why you're questioning everything we tell you.

The reason we eat high fat is because we're replacing the carbs we delete with natural saturated and unsaturated fats. That's how LCHF works. We no longer use carbs for energy (glucose), we use fats for energy (ketones).

The reason we don't use carbs is because carbs raise blood sugar, every carb and every time - carbs raise blood sugar. It isn't a question of figuring out how many carbs we can get by with - the point is to reduce carb consumption as much as possible. This is what clears your slate for a future with no complications.

The more carbs you eat, the more glucose is converted to glycogen and stored in your liver. That allows your liver to make decisions without your permission . . . by converting the glycogen BACK into glucose and dumping it into your bloodstream when you least expect it - like your morning fasting levels.

If you are serious about controlling your diabetes now and forevermore, then start cutting your carbs as much as possible. The advice you've been given by your medical team is in error - they advocate way too many carbs for good health. So you eat what they advise, you stay sick, and after a few years you notice neuropathy, or failing vision, or kidney disease. But by then it's too late to do anything about it. The time to do something about it is NOW. The medical team will tell you these things are to be expected because diabetes is a progressive disease. But we know it doesn't progress if we don't let it.

People with normal blood sugar levels don't get complications, so we are determined to keep our blood sugar levels as close to normal as possible. You already know from your OGTT that you have a metabolic malfunction. You have the power to control it, and if you are wise, you will take whatever measures are needed to do that.




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I know you are by now a bit overwhelmed. And these 'old timers', (I call them that with all the best of intentions because they are saving my life) know what works and will work with your over the long run. But you have to do the work, and get a thick skin, because what they say is not always going to be what you want to hear. Best I can do for you is share my short story with these guys....I have only been doing this LCHF thing since 5/1/2015...62 days now...wow, time fly's when you are having fun....so here is my quick story since 5 May 1...

Welcome on board, I think you will find many answers on this site and a great group of folks that have 'been down the same road’, you are now traveling. I am 65 and found out I was a T2 diabetic 8 years ago. I thought I was managing it well until about 18mo. ago when I found my Ac1 blood sugar test was high for the third time. I was starting to have some foot pain, and my exercising and trying to each less carbs was doing little to get me back on track.

I found this website in April of this year and after reading all the information provided, I did a lot of my own research and determined that changing my eating habits following this High Fat, Low Carb plan was worth a try...including learning to 'eat to my meter'!

I actually started following this style of eating on 5/1/15 and in in the last 8+ weeks my blood sugars have been spot on, with an average of 102 (my meter gives this to me). My weight has dropped by 20 pounds as of this morning. Pretty amazing results....I say! And it started within 24 hours of changing what I ate.

I never feel hungry, but when I start eating, it taste so darn good... This new eating plan is changing my life. Food tastes better, I am full all the time, I have no cravings (after the first two weeks), etc. etc. and icing on the cake, I am losing weight! So I am convinced. I intend on learning and living this life style for as long as I live. I finally have a way that works for me to control my diabetes.

I see my doctor in July, he is going to 'freak' he will probably think I am really ill or having some disease! My Ac1 will be somewhere around 5.2 and I have never been lower than 6.5! I have now lost 20 lbs. also....a benefit of eating real low carbs...

A couple of cautions: do the reading before starting, eating enough fat is critical. Also, be aware that you will 'dump salt' when on this diet. If you get light headed/ tired after starting, it probably is you need to increase you salt intake, this happened to me every afternoon after starting this diet during the first two weeks. I got so bad the last time; I thought I was going to fall down. I did research on this site, when I got home, and found out salt may be the problem. I added lots of salt to my food going forward, that fixed it!

I finally believe I can live with this disease, control blood sugars, get off of some of my meds, and live a better life with less diabetic issues in my health.

Do your reading and research, learn all you can about this eating method and learn more about diabetes.....Get yourself stocked up on test strips for your meter....set a date and give it a try....you will be amazed how you can take control of your disease and life!

Again, welcome, come on in the water is fine! Good Luck

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Okay - you said any help would be appreciated, and we're trying to help. You should try to understand that we've been living this life and succeeding for many years, so I'm not sure why you're questioning everything we tell you.

The reason we eat high fat is because we're replacing the carbs we delete with natural saturated and unsaturated fats. That's how LCHF works. We no longer use carbs for energy (glucose), we use fats for energy (ketones).

The reason we don't use carbs is because carbs raise blood sugar, every carb and every time - carbs raise blood sugar. It isn't a question of figuring out how many carbs we can get by with - the point is to reduce carb consumption as much as possible. This is what clears your slate for a future with no complications.

The more carbs you eat, the more glucose is converted to glycogen and stored in your liver. That allows your liver to make decisions without your permission . . . by converting the glycogen BACK into glucose and dumping it into your bloodstream when you least expect it - like your morning fasting levels.

If you are serious about controlling your diabetes now and forevermore, then start cutting your carbs as much as possible. The advice you've been given by your medical team is in error - they advocate way too many carbs for good health. So you eat what they advise, you stay sick, and after a few years you notice neuropathy, or failing vision, or kidney disease. But by then it's too late to do anything about it. The time to do something about it is NOW. The medical team will tell you these things are to be expected because diabetes is a progressive disease. But we know it doesn't progress if we don't let it.

People with normal blood sugar levels don't get complications, so we are determined to keep our blood sugar levels as close to normal as possible. You already know from your OGTT that you have a metabolic malfunction. You have the power to control it, and if you are wise, you will take whatever measures are needed to do that.
I do appreciate your responses more than you know. I just am trying to understand the science and reasoning behind all of it - not questioning it like you don't know what you mean. Sorry if I came across that way. Thanks again.

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Okay - you said any help would be appreciated, and we're trying to help. You should try to understand that we've been living this life and succeeding for many years, so I'm not sure why you're questioning everything we tell you.

The reason we eat high fat is because we're replacing the carbs we delete with natural saturated and unsaturated fats. That's how LCHF works. We no longer use carbs for energy (glucose), we use fats for energy (ketones).

The reason we don't use carbs is because carbs raise blood sugar, every carb and every time - carbs raise blood sugar. It isn't a question of figuring out how many carbs we can get by with - the point is to reduce carb consumption as much as possible. This is what clears your slate for a future with no complications.

The more carbs you eat, the more glucose is converted to glycogen and stored in your liver. That allows your liver to make decisions without your permission . . . by converting the glycogen BACK into glucose and dumping it into your bloodstream when you least expect it - like your morning fasting levels.

If you are serious about controlling your diabetes now and forevermore, then start cutting your carbs as much as possible. The advice you've been given by your medical team is in error - they advocate way too many carbs for good health. So you eat what they advise, you stay sick, and after a few years you notice neuropathy, or failing vision, or kidney disease. But by then it's too late to do anything about it. The time to do something about it is NOW. The medical team will tell you these things are to be expected because diabetes is a progressive disease. But we know it doesn't progress if we don't let it.

People with normal blood sugar levels don't get complications, so we are determined to keep our blood sugar levels as close to normal as possible. You already know from your OGTT that you have a metabolic malfunction. You have the power to control it, and if you are wise, you will take whatever measures are needed to do that.
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It's really a very simple concept.

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Thank you for all of the help. I'm not understanding why, if I eat a 30g carb meal and my 1-hour BG is 95, do I need to cut carbs to 20-50g a day? I'm at 45g of carbs today and all of my 1 and 2 hour readings have been in the 70s and 80s...
Also, why is it so important to eat high fat if I'm full with not so much fat?
Thanks again!
If you are able to handle 45 grams of carbs at one time, then that would be okay for you. This amount per meal is at the top of the low-carb curve and would probably be called "moderate carb" compared to the 20g-50g per day kind of low-carb way of eating that most of us here do. But everything about diabetes is an individual thing - everyone is different.

My advice is to continue to monitor your BG so that you don't have any surprises down the road. It is through testing that one knows what is going on and can take corrective measures right away - which would mean if your BG starts to rise then you'll know that you need to reduce carbs.

I would say, though, that true LCHF way of eating has other health benefits than just controlling BG. It is a very healthy way to eat, especially if one eliminates grains (which cause their own health issues).

Whatever you decide, you at least now know what you may need to do to manage your (what appears to be only moderate) glucose metabolism issues.

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cdonoian23...
Having questions is perfectly normal and we all found some of this 'hard to believe' until we did a lot of our own research, all recommended reading, and tried it out. I even went as far as buying the paperback book Blood Sugar 101! I then took a ton of time reading research data referenced in the book in that section of the book there are over 200 listed citations referencing the science behind this LCHF life.

If you really like that level of detail, you will find all of that reference citations on the website noted on post #3 above...

Check some of it out...that may help you clarify some of your questions...

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