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Wintercarlyle 05-06-2016 07:29

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Hi, I'm Winter. I've just had a disastrous diabetes check up with a new doctor and so I'm looking for friendly support. I'm unmedicated at this point but that's about to change.

Wintercarlyle 05-06-2016 07:59

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Originally Posted by Wintercarlyle (Post 1120786)
Hi, I'm Winter. I've just had a disastrous diabetes check up with a new doctor and so I'm looking for friendly support. I'm unmedicated at this point but that's about to change.

I left the doctors in tears today. I've had type 2 for five years (I'm 45) and I've never come across such a heartless, misinformed doctor. I have been looking for a new doc to deal with my worsening bg numbers and I mistakenly chose a very young woman with a rather interesting bedside manner (ie. None). I told her of my problems with metformin, my issues with blood pressure meds (creating havoc with bg but not helping bp). I made the mistake of telling her I'd stopped both. She announced that I was non compliant. "Why are you even here?" Ummm, to try something else. She asked me what I weighed and it all went downhill from there. When the scale did not match what I'd told her I got a look. Then she measured my waist and shoved the tape measure in my face to show me how much fatter I was then what I should be. Another look. I then got a lecture on how she maintains her 22 yo body by running ten kilometres a week.

I said I'd been battling my weight for ten years but was thin when my blood sugar issues began. I said maybe I am fat because I have diabetes, I did not eat my way into this disease. She disagreed. She told me I had diabetes BECAUSE I was overweight, from eating too much junk and not exercising enough. She has just met me. She has no idea how I eat or what exercise I do. I asked her how she explained thin type 2 diabetics. I asked how she knew by looking at me I was insulin resistant. Ive never had a single doctor check my insulin levels. I asked her why every overweight person doesn't end up with diabetes. She told me I had limited understanding of the condition because I disagreed that I'd brought it on myself. By this stage I was embarrassed and angry. I told her her view of diabetes was old fashioned. (She didn't take that well) She told me to follow a low fat, low Gi, Mediterranean diet. No mention of carbs. This is info I got ten years ago. Low fat??? Really? This is what they teach new doctors?

I clearly have a lot to learn.

VeeJay 05-06-2016 12:42

What a jerk your doctor is. You're not going to go back to her are you?

I think (no, I know) you're going to be glad you landed here. WE know you didn't eat your way to diabetes. WE know that diet is important and restriction of carbs is the key (along with increased fat). WE understand the frustrations of trying to control weight with low-fat. And WE will give you the support you need to get a handle on your diabetes and can also give you the knowledge to be successful.

First off, give a good read at
Blood Sugar 101

Two places of immediate interest

You Did NOT Eat Your Way to Diabetes: The REAL Causes

How to Lower Your Blood Sugar

As you read through the threads here you'll find that most of us are on a low-carb/high-fat (LCHF) way of eating (not "diet", but "lifestyle). It works, and a side benefit is that it allows the loss of excess weight without feeling hungry. But most of all, it is a great tool in lowering and maintaining good blood sugar levels. Take a look here Low Carb for Beginners

Do visit here often and ask any questions you may have. We are your new diabetic friends, and we want you to succeed like we have.

Cricket 05-06-2016 13:31

@Wintercarlyle, I am so sorry you went through that kind of experience with your doctor. I think maybe some doctors forget that there is a real human being behind that chart they're looking at. This is a great place to find support and daily motivation. So many of us have been where you are right now. You WILL get through this.

Katieboosmama 05-06-2016 13:53

Dr's sometimes forget they are our employees, you need to fire her and find someone that will listen to you and even if they may disagree, have an open mind. Hard to find I know. Good luck and welcome to the forum. I am also pretty much a newbie, here but everyone has been super supportive and friendly :)

pwatcher 05-06-2016 15:00

Winter, I'm sorry you had such an incompetent and uncaring medical provider and I agree with the responses you have already received from members of this forum. You mentioned worsening bg numbers - can you fill in some blanks for us? Also, have you also had trouble with side effects of metformin ER? Many have found that the extended release form is much easier for them to adapt to.

You've found a community that will give you testimonies to what works and you can do this!

div2live 05-06-2016 15:09

Winter.....first welcome, you have just surrounded yourself with a very large and diverse group of fellow diabetics many of whom have walked many of the roads you will soon be walking.

As for your 'doctor' many of us have had to deal with bad doctors, although yours is particularly bad! If she is 22, I cannot understand how she could already be an MD? 4 years college, 4 years of medical school, just to be a GP MD! Starting college at 18, graduating at 22 + 8 years for be an MD makes her at least 30!? If she actually said 22, she is a liar on top of everything else....

Good Luck in finding a new MD

Kiko F 05-06-2016 16:22

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Originally Posted by Wintercarlyle (Post 1120794)
I left the doctors in tears today. I've had type 2 for five years (I'm 45) and I've never come across such a heartless, misinformed doctor. I have been looking for a new doc to deal with my worsening bg numbers and I mistakenly chose a very young woman with a rather interesting bedside manner (ie. None). I told her of my problems with metformin, my issues with blood pressure meds (creating havoc with bg but not helping bp). I made the mistake of telling her I'd stopped both. She announced that I was non compliant. "Why are you even here?" Ummm, to try something else. She asked me what I weighed and it all went downhill from there. When the scale did not match what I'd told her I got a look. Then she measured my waist and shoved the tape measure in my face to show me how much fatter I was then what I should be. Another look. I then got a lecture on how she maintains her 22 yo body by running ten kilometres a week.

I said I'd been battling my weight for ten years but was thin when my blood sugar issues began. I said maybe I am fat because I have diabetes, I did not eat my way into this disease. She disagreed. She told me I had diabetes BECAUSE I was overweight, from eating too much junk and not exercising enough. She has just met me. She has no idea how I eat or what exercise I do. I asked her how she explained thin type 2 diabetics. I asked how she knew by looking at me I was insulin resistant. Ive never had a single doctor check my insulin levels. I asked her why every overweight person doesn't end up with diabetes. She told me I had limited understanding of the condition because I disagreed that I'd brought it on myself. By this stage I was embarrassed and angry. I told her her view of diabetes was old fashioned. (She didn't take that well) She told me to follow a low fat, low Gi, Mediterranean diet. No mention of carbs. This is info I got ten years ago. Low fat??? Really? This is what they teach new doctors?

I clearly have a lot to learn.




You said she was 22. That's your answer right there. It's a fact that Millenials lack even basic social skills. They lack empathy and respect. Please don't go back to her. She can't possibly understand how to treat you. I wish you good luck.

Wintercarlyle 05-06-2016 21:30

Thanks to all who replied. I may have exaggerated her being 22 but she was fresh out of university (Australia). She mentioned six years of training in her rant about how I'd insulted her and how she was the educated one here and I clearly knew nothing about diabetes. Don't worry, I didn't take that lying down. I told her if her theory was right and it was just fat and lazy people w type 2 why was it such an epidemic...obviously whatever the learned doctors were prescribing wasn't working that well.

No, I won't be returning to her. I feel like putting in a formal complaint but what can I say? She belittled me, she was rude, I was rude back, it sounds rather minor. Anyway, it's over now.

In regards to my deterioration. My a1c is now 8.0. 3 mths ago it was 7.2. I'd say that's losing control. My fasting numbers are around 180, my avg for day around 200. I can't tolerate metformin but I'm starting the ER version (which I ve tried in past with no joy) again but smaller dose, working my way up more slowly this time. I don't have huge post prandial spikes but my baseline is always 180ish. The lowest I go is around 140. I've talked to Jenny Ruhl years ago and she said to look into whether I have Mody 2. I'd love to but I haven't found a GP that even knows what it is or even knew to order a c peptide test. They are pushing multiple drugs on me that I'm not going to take. Metformin I will persist with but nothing else.

I was asking when to start a basal insulin but dr from hell indicated not til a1c is over 10. I said I'd read it's better to start insulin early give your pancreas a break she said you are insulin resistant why would I give you insulin? She was a magic doc who could see my insulin resistant aura, I guess. If I don't spike wildly and come back to baseline within 3 hrs, wouldn't that suggest I'm not that resistant? Even type 1s can be resistant. She told me what I'm reading is wrong. I base most of my info/beliefs on Jenny Ruhl, she, at least, makes sense and has been doing this stuff for many years.

moon 05-06-2016 22:43

She probably got ruder and ruder as the visit went on, because you kept showing how much smarter you were :) I love hearing tales of pushing back - you really held your own. There will be a day when her education catches up, and she'll have a light-bulb moment wherein words come flooding back to her.

How delicious is that?!


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