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Old 05-23-2018, 13:39   #1
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Hi, Dr says I have mild Diabetes and last A1C was 7.1 and am taking Metformin twice a day. I seldom use the meter he gave me in Feb but when I do, about 7 times use for fasting glucose test, itís always 148 to 152. Too hard to change eating habits so I eat what I want hoping Metformin keeps it under control. No feet damage or eye issues at all. I take it day by day I do walk everyday. Sometimes I forget all about it because I take both meds and all pills at once.
Bottom line is Dr says itís mild, so little to worry about?? At this point?

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That’s BPH meds in above post. Not both meds.

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Hi, Ratter51! Welcome to the forum.

An A1c of 7.1 translates to an average meter reading (if you will) between 155 and 160. Since your fasting blood glucose level is significantly lower than that, that means that your blood glucose levels are running significantly higher than that at times, as well.

All of those levels -- even the fasting level -- are high enough (over 140) to cause organ damage (accoring to many endocrinologists and several studies). Maybe the Metformin will address that. Maybe it won't. Diabetes is a chronic progressive disease and, over time, you may need either more met or additional drugs or even insulin to keep your blood glucose at levels that won't cause organ damage.

Like every newly-diagnosed diabetic, you're facing a number of life changes. I get that watching what you eat is a big change. But I would urge you to start using your meter at several meals a day to figure out which foods have the worst effect on your blood glucose. You may find that dropping a few select foods from your menu makes big changes in your blood glucose levels and the need to use drugs or insulin to address them.

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Hi Ratter

Joining this forum is going to only benefit you as you navigate your new lifestyle with diabetes. Yes, it's a bummer. And it's common to take some time to get used to the idea.

As you read through this forum (I highly recommend reading other members' intro threads) you'll find that what helps us the most is to reduce the very foods that cause blood glucose (BG) to rise in the first place. That would be carbohydrates. The second most important thing is to use that glucose meter to your advantage. Take a look at this way of testing, which will give you meaningful data to start taking charge of your diabetes http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabete...ng-method.html

Do stick around the forum here and ask any questions you may have. We're more than willing to share our successes (and failures, as well). We're all in this together.

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Ratter51....welcome! You have just joined a forum that has hundreds of people that, like you, have been diagnosed as diabetic. Many of us have walked the same roads you are now on. We can share our experiences or give you our opinions based on what we individually have gone through.

I am surprized your doctor minimized this diagnosis. Unfortunately, once you meet the basic requirements to be called a 'diabetic', you are and will be a diabetic for life! As noted above it is a disease that will get worse (Chronic Progressive Disease). As noted above, if your blood sugar goes over 140, at anytime 24/7 the blood sugar in your body is damaging cells in your body.

Over time this process will reveal itself to you in the form of diabetic complications. That's the bad news, the good news is that you can minimize this by learning to control your blood sugar levels, 24/7! Most on here do that by reducing our intake of carbohydrates (offsetting this by increasing our fat intake to offset the lack of carbs) and by taking some drugs like Metformin and/or insulin. And by monitoring/ learning how our bodies react to the foods we are eating....this is where we talk about 'Eating to our Meters'! Over time we learn what we can eat and how much we can eat of certain foods. This learning process coupled with lots of trial and errors will lead you to knowing what works and does not work for you.


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Welcome to the forum Ratter. I'm also surprised that your doctor minimized your diagnosis.

These are the ranges provided to me by LabCorp. I'm sure there are slight variances from lab to lab.

< 5.7 (Normal)
5.7 - 6.4 (Pre-diabetes)
> 6.4 (Diabetes)
> 7.0 (Uncontrolled)

Diabetes doesn't only affect the feet and eyes. It affects all your organs. If you do not manage your sugar levels, the complications do not take years and years. It can be quick. I saw it happen to my Dad. It starts off slow, then it accelerates. My Dad always had his feet checked. There was nothing wrong with them until a box fell on them. The wound wouldn't heal, and it eventually gangrened. It started with a toe, then the foot, then the leg. It is horrible and painful. I had never seen my Dad cry before until then. Sorry that's more info than you wanted to hear, but if I can scare one person into managing their diabetes, then I'm glad I told my Dad's story.

I know it's hard, but you can do it. Everyone here is so helpful and informative. I credit this forum for giving me the guidance I needed to lower my A1C.

Take it slow. If it's that difficult for you, decrease your carb intake a little at a time. Please read everything div2live recommended.

I hope you continue to visit and post.

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Hi, Dr says I have mild Diabetes and last A1C was 7.1 and am taking Metformin twice a day. I seldom use the meter he gave me in Feb but when I do, about 7 times use for fasting glucose test, itís always 148 to 152. Too hard to change eating habits so I eat what I want hoping Metformin keeps it under control. No feet damage or eye issues at all. I take it day by day I do walk everyday. Sometimes I forget all about it because I take both meds and all pills at once.
Bottom line is Dr says itís mild, so little to worry about?? At this point?
to directly answer your question... it is 100% something to worry about. The way you are currently managing it, it will be progressive and the longer you wait to control it through diet, the worse it will get. If you wait until the symptoms get worse, it will get harder to manage.

if its too hard to change eating habits, you are down a path where it will only get worse. As it rises, you will need more medication. once the medication doesnt do the trick, you will need insulin.

I rarely hear good outcomes from people that do nothing with their eating habits and rely on medications to control it. In my opinion, all the medication does is slow does the progression but it will still progress and get worse.

Please consider changing your eating habits. Diabetes can be controlled and the progression stopped by changing your eating habits. But that choice is yours. We are hear to support you in any decision you make and will answer any questions you have.

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https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb lists foods for LCHF

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OK thanks for the info. I worked really hard today and I fell off the wagon and ate A McDonalds Sunday with chocolate on it. I ate it and I swear, I felt the sugar shoot to my brain. Got a satisfied feeling. I eat lots of vegi’s and always have and lots of fruit. Going back and forth from wheat bread then get tired of the taste and get white Italian bread with real butter.
Breakfast consists of Wawa or McDobalds egg sandwich. Every day. They do not have brown bread unfortunately. The bacon I get crispy so the fats are cooked away. I like it that way anyway. I tried the various artificial sweeteners and they aggravate the BPH ...gotta pee much more. I am maxed out on meds the urologist says. The big issue is sweet tooth. I guess I have a little Diabetes but it’s hard to believe or accept. The meter I hate. Don’t like sticking the pin in my finger but a device came with the meter called a lancer but I just slowly stick the pin in my finger and it hurts a little. MY thought were if it takes 20 years to do damage who cares but now you all say damage can happen faster.
I have been losing a lot of teeth. My Dr uses Lab Corp. All the Dr said was the report was good but mild Diabetes. He did say eat brown bread no pizza. Thanks to everyone. I’m kinda accepting but I resent being called a diabetic. Sorry.

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OK thanks for the info. I worked really hard today and I fell off the wagon and ate A McDonalds Sunday with chocolate on it. I ate it and I swear, I felt the sugar shoot to my brain. Got a satisfied feeling. I eat lots of vegiís and always have and lots of fruit. Going back and forth from wheat bread then get tired of the taste and get white Italian bread with real butter.
Breakfast consists of Wawa or McDobalds egg sandwich. Every day. They do not have brown bread unfortunately. The bacon I get crispy so the fats are cooked away. I like it that way anyway. I tried the various artificial sweeteners and they aggravate the BPH ...gotta pee much more. I am maxed out on meds the urologist says. The big issue is sweet tooth. I guess I have a little Diabetes but itís hard to believe or accept. The meter I hate. Donít like sticking the pin in my finger but a device came with the meter called a lancer but I just slowly stick the pin in my finger and it hurts a little. MY thought were if it takes 20 years to do damage who cares but now you all say damage can happen faster.
I have been losing a lot of teeth. My Dr uses Lab Corp. All the Dr said was the report was good but mild Diabetes. He did say eat brown bread no pizza. Thanks to everyone. Iím kinda accepting but I resent being called a diabetic. Sorry.
so first of all.. you are not 'mild diabetic'.. you are diabetic (according to your numbers). Second you have been 'brainwashed to believe there are 'good carbs' and 'bad fat'. basically this is not true. So whole wheat, fruit, brown bread , potatoes, etc are all carbs and will all affect your blood sugar. The idea to get yourself to lower your medication (or stop it entirely) and stop the progression is to limit all carbs.

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No one here is going to push you or force you or even tell you that you are wrong. We are going to tell you what works for us and answer the questions you have. You need to make a choice and only then will it work for you. I have never been good and someone TELLING me anything. give me the information and let me decide

thats what we are doing. From my experience, you have diabetes and you are not doing enough to slow or stop the progression. The foods you are eating are causing more issues.

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I posted this on another thread but I think it will be helpful for you. I am not sure if you understand diabetes and I tried to make it short but its not... read it if you want to understand it more

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Type 2 diabetes:

this is a disease where your body and your insulin can not manage the sugar in your blood. You get sugar in your blood by eating foods that have sugar and carbohydrates in it. (carbs turn to sugar in your blood). Normally, when there is sugar in your blood, insulin is produced in your body and moves the sugar out of your body and into the cells. this prevents the sugar from damaging your veins. If you are type 2 diabetic, it means one of 2 things. either your insulin production has diminished and it can not keep up with the amount of sugar in your blood or that your cells are refusing to allow the insulin to move the sugar into the cells. Because of this, the sugar in your blood rises and stays high which is the diagnosis of diabetes.

The bad news is that it can not be cured. you will never be able to eat what you have always eaten and not run the risk of seriously damaging your body

Most Doctors advice:

Most doctors will put you on a diet that lowers your carb intake somewhat (50+ carbs per meal) and give you medication that will help with the sugar in your blood. there is 2 things wrong with this. First, it treats the symptom (too much sugar in your blood) and not the problem (why there is too much sugar in your blood). The other problem with this is that the medication you get can bring your sugar too low and cause problems. in order to prevent that, you need to eat carbs (the thing that caused the problem to begin with) and eventually the medicine will need to be raised and then you need to eat more carbs which means eventually the medicine will need to be raised more and then you might need to get insulin injections.

Finding and treating the root cause:

The root cause is the sugar in the blood. the more sugar in the blood, the worse the problem. So how do we fix that? Carbs and sugar is the reason for the sugar in the blood... stop eating carbs and sugar and your blood sugar will be low. But this is easier said than done.

Historically, the reason that almost 50% of the population is diabetic is because of the ADA. Back in the 70%, they made an incorrect assumption that FAT was causing blockages and heart attacks and they looked at faulty studies and decided to change their guidelines to provide a low fat diet. I am sure we all know this.. FAT IS BAD... but the studies were not scientific and they were wrong.

But because of these studies, people lowered their fat intake. but there is a problem. if you lower your fat intake, you need to replace it with something... CARBOHYDRATES! so most people significantly increased their carb intake... this put stress on the pancreas and is the reason for this disease

WHAT WE CAN DO

Well... there are Essential Fats we must eat to survive, there are essential proteins we must eat to survive , but guess what... there is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate!

The lower our intake of carbohydrates, the lower the blood sugar and the best way to put this disease in remission. Most of us are on some sort of VLC/HF diet (Very low carb / high fat) and guess what? most of us have found ALL of our blood work comes back better than ever in ALL areas and we eat FAT. We lose weight and we lower our cholesterol and our blood sugar and we get healthy... EATING FAT

so... if you are still awake and are still reading... watch the video, look at the links in my signature.. think about the reason for diabetes and what you think you need to do in order to correct it. Come back and ask as many questions as you want. We have all been through what you are going through. we understand and empathize with you.

Personally, I was diagnosed with diabetes over 2 years ago and within the first year of going VLC/HF I lost almost 100 pounds, lowered my blood sugar to normal ranges and my blood pressure, cholesterol and all my bloodwork is excellent WITHOUT ANY MEDICATION!

Sorry this is so long.. but I wanted to provide you with some details that I hope can confuse things a bit less.

Come back and talk with us. I put up a pot of coffee.. there are bacon strips in the kitchen.. come hang out!

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