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Old 06-11-2018, 01:15   #1
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Did my first 2 hour after eating... yesterday was first Random about 4 hours after half a sub which was 177 reading I think.
Today my very first 2 hour after eating peanut butter and jelly two small rye bread sandwiches and fruit first with tablespoon of sugar to get sweetness. 2 hours later meter 183.

But this is the big question, I am taking Metformin twice a day and have been.my question us this....If I do nothing about my eating, how long can I go before damage happens??? I read 5 to 15 years?
I can coast a few more years safely? Ill still take the pills. How long can I coast along? Im 64 thank you

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Unfortunately, no one can truly answer this question for you with any degree of accuracy. The truth is, the only way anyone can help prevent diabetes complications is by doing what it takes to control their blood sugar.

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Hello, Ratter!

It's hard to provide an answer to your question. Even your doctors would be hard-pressed to make an accurate guess.

How long was your blood glucose running in a diabetic range before you started taking the metformin? I was diagnosed diabetic years before I was ready to take it seriously. I know I did some damage to myself while I was denying my diagnosis.

Do you have any other illnesses or genetic issues that make you more susceptible to the kinds of damage diabetes does? (We don't need an answer for that; just mentioning a possible complication.) For example, diabetes affects the heart. But if your heart is already dealing with obesity or atherosclerosis or high blood pressure or a genetically-related heart valve issue, it's already not in optimal condition. It's hard to say just what will cause enough of a problem to make it serious.

As we age, our bodies don't function as well as they used to. Arthritis or some other neuromuscular issue may make it more difficult to exercise -- which can slow down your body's metabolism and, therefore, the amount of insulin your body still can produce. You would have to adjust the metformin dose -- or move to insulin because your body's pancreas simply stops making insulin.

Finally, there's the definition of "damage". Is "damage" defined as simple as noting that infections don't clear up as quickly as they used to because of your diabetes? Or is it defined as severe as gangrene and limb amputation?

I think I understand the equation you're trying to solve. But there really are too many variables -- and some of them cannot be known at this time.

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@Ratter51 I want you to know that I truly understand how you feel because I have been where you are. When I was first diagnosed, I felt how you feel. Let me show you why I chose to make the decision to make some nutritional changes.

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as others have said there is really no way to know ... but

if you got cut with a knife, would you ask how long before you bleed out?

if you had cancer, would you ask how long before I am at a point so bad that I have to have treatment or die?

if you had a tumor, would you ask how large it can get before you need to do something about it?

the longer you wait , the harder it will be to control and the more likely you will suffer some extreme consequences. You are at a point right now where you can do something about it with little to no consequences.

The way you are thinking, this is a progressive disease and it gets harder to fix or control as time goes on

I know you didnt ask it this way but ...

If you are asking how long you need to wait until you can be assured that you will not result in any traumatic problems... the answer is that you can no longer wait any longer. Its not the answer to the question you specifically asked but its the answer we all know that are going through it. every day that goes by is another missed opportunity to get it under control. Your body is working harder and harder every day to maintain your carb intake and its starting to take its toll. Not sure when the red line is but my personal red line for you is today. (just my opinion... not clinical)

No disrespect and its just my opinion. If you choose to not listen to me, I take no offense at all and I still respect you and what you are going through. But I would be upset at myself if I was not honest with you because I want someone to always be honest with me

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Just to add my 2 cents worth - impossible to answer the question on how long it takes. Based on all the people with diabetes I know (both type 1 and type 2) complications seem to be random. People who you would think would have complications don't while others who try real hard do.

I would start working on your food intake - humans weren't meant to eat the large quantity of processed carbs that the common traditional western meal has become. I suspect this is responsible for the growing number of Type 2s that live in North America.

Puts more money in the hands of big pharma however ....

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Diabetic Complications can occur at any point if you are not managing your blood sugar levels. Some of these complications do not dramatically impact your life, like burning feet and numb toes....others like blindness, and heart damage are life shortening events.....problem is you do not get to pick which ones you get or how serious they get....

Guess you enjoy Las Vegas...but the cost of uncontrolled diabetes can be very costly...if you get what I mean! I am 68 and speak from experience....

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Adding my 2 cents as well. When my Dad stopped eating healthy, he stopped monitoring his sugar. It took my Dad roughly 4 years before he started seeing complications. Once complications started, it was one thing after another until he died. You also have to think about how your complications will affect your loved ones.

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I'm going to jump in here with a comment as well. My numbers are actually pretty good for most people. A1C of 5.7, Fasting 105 BUT I already have a spot behind my eye (found 2 weeks ago now). Like the other's, there is no way to know how long it will take - for me it was instant.........now I have to really keep my levels low. I'm only 61 and still have a lot of living to do.

I immediately started watching my diet, doc put me on a very low dose of Metformin (250) once a day. I go back in 4 weeks and return to eye doc in 2 more months......I'm taking this very serious - even testing my BS before and after meals.

There is a ton of great information in this forum. There's also a bunch of support.

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Well, I thought I jumped on this thread...but I don't see my post.

Anyway, it took my Dad approximately 4 years to see complications from the time he stopped watching what he ate. He was doing very well, until Mom got sick. I believe I went into detail on the last thread you initiated, so I won't repeat myself.

Like everyone has already said, no telling when complications will start. I know it's hard. We all know it's hard, but we all have a choice.

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