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Old 03-04-2019, 21:14   #11
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Hi VeeJay
Thanks for replying and your hands on experience to share

This forum is rejecting any replies I do as to URL links even though those links are in those I am replying to with quotes such as yours so deleted them from below to be able to reply back :-(

Yes my problem is zipping through the Either of cyberspace has got me way confused, one say eat low and another says HIGH.
bought like 5 books to type 2 from Amazon and concerned it will confuse me even more

Views on ones I am getting like first to read, or book stinks and do not read
Dr. Neal Barnard's Program for Reversing Diabetes: The Scientifically Proven System for Reversing Diabetes Without Drugs

Diabetes For Dummies
Rubin, Alan L

Diabetes Meal Planning and Nutrition For Dummies
Smithson, Toby

Diabetes Cookbook For Dummies
Rubin, Alan L.

The Diabetes Code: Prevent and Reverse Type 2 Diabetes Naturally
Fung, Jason


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Welcome to the forum, Jr

You've joined a good place and are now among a group of folks who are dedicated to gaining good control of their diabetes. Do stick around, read the threads (especially others intro threads) and join in the discussions - ask any questions you have.

I was 63 when I was diagnosed with diabetes. Having some experience of low-carb eating before for weight loss, I immediately went low carb and saw immediate results in much lower BG.

I have learned a lot from the information and experiences shared here by other diabetics. Another good resource is We have come to trust what is written there because the author, Jenny Ruhl, does the research and cites her resources.

There's a lot to know about diabetes, but as you will find as you read through the threads here, it isn't all that difficult to manage T2 diabetes. Your meter is your friend. It will tell you the truth about what you can and cannot eat. (I never trust anyone who says "this food is good for diabetics" without checking if it is good for me. I follow the "Eat to your meter" method and so I actually KNOW what foods I can and cannot eat.

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Hi teamzr1, welcome to the forum.

Some doctors are helpful to new diabetics but most are not. I was told I was borderline for several years before finally being told I was diabetic. You can get a lot of good info at the links given as well as here on the forum. Many of the abbreviations used on the forum can be found by clicking here

As far as posting links, after you have 5 post, you should be able to post links. That's why you saw the link dropped out of a post you replied to. You should be able to post links now that you have 5 posts.

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Thanks mbuster

BTW, what is wrong with eating bread ?
what do I look for as what it consists of ?
Any what about saltine crackers

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Hi teamzr1, welcome to the forum.

Some doctors are helpful to new diabetics but most are not. I was told I was borderline for several years before finally being told I was diabetic. You can get a lot of good info at the links given as well as here on the forum. Many of the abbreviations used on the forum can be found by clicking here

As far as posting links, after you have 5 post, you should be able to post links. That's why you saw the link dropped out of a post you replied to. You should be able to post links now that you have 5 posts.

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Here is my small Corvette forum
has only Corvette content, no vendors, ads, etc
Lots of techie content, U tube, ( only Corvette and racing)

BTW the nut I am did many Open Road races, that is where the event rents public roads and it shut down to public, roads are like 80-120 miles and mountain area such as in Nevada or Texas

Max speed I have done is 217 MPH so I am a bit of wacko

Interesting then is I have no problem doing that but do not want to stab my fingers

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As for your screen name, do you have a ZR1?

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Hey, JR,

Sounds like you've got a bunch of challenges right now. Let's see if we can start addressing some of them:

I really recommend taking a little time and looking at the Web sites and vidoes linked in this thread on this site. Many of them duplicate links other posters have mentioned here. They're a good starter on what diabetes is, how it affects us, and the effects of what we eat. Well worth the time to get you grounded in your new situation.

"High carb" is the way most Americans eat -- the sugary pop and breads and noodles and cereal and batter-fried foods and corn and peas and potatoes). Thing is, our bodies do not need that many carbs to function well -- and the body can learn to make energy from protein. Despite this, the "standard of care" for diabetics is a diet that's still too high in carbohydrates. As a result, many of us eat "low carb" -- just the number of grams of carbohydraates our individual bodies require to be healthy and no more. You have to measure what you eat, at least at first, but it becomes easier with practice.

Exercise? With the winter we've had in the northern U.S., I certainly count snow shoveling as exercise! It's good to get moving but sometimes weather and how we feel is a challenge. You can manage that a little by restricting what you eat and bump that up when you can be more active.

The metformin will take a little while to have a big effect. You probably won't feel it working (unless you're one of the people whose stomach is upset by it). When you start using your meter, you'll start seeing the effect of the metformin. Humans are really good at storing food energy so it will take a while of eating differently and using the metformin for your body to get used to the new way of things.

JR, I hope you don't get overwhelmed by all this. The info on the page I listed in this note will start filling in the gaps for you. Do what you can -- anything you can do is better than where you were -- and you'll be on your way. You'll be making a number of big changes in your life; so be good to yourself. At least in my view it's okay to ease into those changes as you can.

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Thanks mbuster

BTW, what is wrong with eating bread ?
what do I look for as what it consists of ?
Any what about saltine crackers
When you get your meter and start testing, you'll find that any grains, be it whole or not, are a problem for a diabetic. Starches are digested in the stomach and are quickly turned into glucose. Which, of course, raises one's blood glucose levels.

When one's whole way of eating is based on carbohydrates, it takes a bit of adjustment to start thinking meat and vegetables, instead of meat and potatoes, etc. I know it was for me.

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When you get your meter and start testing, you'll find that any grains, be it whole or not, are a problem for a diabetic. Starches are digested in the stomach and are quickly turned into glucose. Which, of course, raises one's blood glucose levels.

When one's whole way of eating is based on carbohydrates, it takes a bit of adjustment to start thinking meat and vegetables, instead of meat and potatoes, etc. I know it was for me.
OK Veejay, thanks

Well that is me, eat a lot of breads, potatoes.
I bread is toasted does that make it safer to eat ?
I looked at the label of white bread, saw no starch, do they use a label for that ?

Also having o fight with pneumonia for 5 weeks I cannot tell which is causing the biggest effects and no more then 4 hours sleep a night cannot help getting better :-(

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Old 03-05-2019, 00:09   #18
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OK I will go watch that video and see if I understand better

Damn with fighting the pneumonia also, I have been eating a lot of canned chicken noodle soup :-(
Are cooked eggs OK, I cook them in a little butter OK ?
So I look at what stuff is made of and see how many carbs it has ?

I am in pacific NW, tons of snow here ( and more coming this week) but with pneumonia and 4 screwed up discs in spine I cannot do what most can to exercise along with the highs only being around 20 degs does not help


You think they have me taking Metformin 2 times a day, 500MG each only for 20 days max is enough to better type 2 level I have now ?

Thanks again

I assume if I was no fighting the pneumonia for last 5 weeks, maybe the type 2 effects would feel less

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Hey, JR,

Sounds like you've got a bunch of challenges right now. Let's see if we can start addressing some of them:

I really recommend taking a little time and looking at the Web sites and vidoes linked in this thread on this site. Many of them duplicate links other posters have mentioned here. They're a good starter on what diabetes is, how it affects us, and the effects of what we eat. Well worth the time to get you grounded in your new situation.

"High carb" is the way most Americans eat -- the sugary pop and breads and noodles and cereal and batter-fried foods and corn and peas and potatoes). Thing is, our bodies do not need that many carbs to function well -- and the body can learn to make energy from protein. Despite this, the "standard of care" for diabetics is a diet that's still too high in carbohydrates. As a result, many of us eat "low carb" -- just the number of grams of carbohydraates our individual bodies require to be healthy and no more. You have to measure what you eat, at least at first, but it becomes easier with practice.

Exercise? With the winter we've had in the northern U.S., I certainly count snow shoveling as exercise! It's good to get moving but sometimes weather and how we feel is a challenge. You can manage that a little by restricting what you eat and bump that up when you can be more active.

The metformin will take a little while to have a big effect. You probably won't feel it working (unless you're one of the people whose stomach is upset by it). When you start using your meter, you'll start seeing the effect of the metformin. Humans are really good at storing food energy so it will take a while of eating differently and using the metformin for your body to get used to the new way of things.

JR, I hope you don't get overwhelmed by all this. The info on the page I listed in this note will start filling in the gaps for you. Do what you can -- anything you can do is better than where you were -- and you'll be on your way. You'll be making a number of big changes in your life; so be good to yourself. At least in my view it's okay to ease into those changes as you can.

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So I look at what stuff is made of and see how many carbs it has ?
Exactly.

Low-carb is typically 50 grams of carbohydrates or less per DAY. Some can tolerate more, others need to go lower than that. By testing, you'll know what your carb tolerance is.

Test before you eat (baseline). Test one hour after the first bite (usually when the highest spike in BG occurs). This will tell you how many points that particular meal raised your BG. If you had calculated the total grams of carbs in that meal, then you have more data so that you can sort of predict what a certain amount of carbs will do to your BG.

For comparison. Most non-diabetics' BG remains around 80-100 mg/dl, perhaps spiking up to 120 or so for a very short time after eating. Any amount of time BG remains over 140 is causing nerve and organ damage. So, for most of us, the goal is to keep our BG below 140 all the time.

(I know the ADA will say keep BG below 180, but they are doing a disservice to the diabetic community with that higher level. Endocrinologists recommend below 140.)

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So how many times a day do you stab yourself :-)

Is there some online or MSwindows program that can be used to just fill in values and it track what the daily amount is, or you select the type of food and it knows what the carb values are ?

What does ADA mean and BG ?

Thanks for your input and experience

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Exactly.

Low-carb is typically 50 grams of carbohydrates or less per DAY. Some can tolerate more, others need to go lower than that. By testing, you'll know what your carb tolerance is.

Test before you eat (baseline). Test one hour after the first bite (usually when the highest spike in BG occurs). This will tell you how many points that particular meal raised your BG. If you had calculated the total grams of carbs in that meal, then you have more data so that you can sort of predict what a certain amount of carbs will do to your BG.

For comparison. Most non-diabetics' BG remains around 80-100 mg/dl, perhaps spiking up to 120 or so for a very short time after eating. Any amount of time BG remains over 140 is causing nerve and organ damage. So, for most of us, the goal is to keep our BG below 140 all the time.

(I know the ADA will say keep BG below 180, but they are doing a disservice to the diabetic community with that higher level. Endocrinologists recommend below 140.)

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