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Old 03-05-2019, 17:46   #31
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...hard to see is per meal your only can only handle 8-10 grams of carbohydrates ?
You might want to browse through the meal threads in the Diet forum
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You'll be surprised at how good we all eat.
Don't forget, JR, that's net carbs: the grams of carbohydrates on the package (or whatever you're using to learn the amount of carb grams) minus grams of fiber (or grams of "sugar alcohols", which are sugar substitutes we can discuss later). That leaves plenty of room for a breakfast of a couple of eggs and some bacon or sausage; a lunch of soup or a green salad with some meat or cheese on it, and even some of the fancier meals VeeJay linked to in the Diet forum. And since you can bump up the amount of fat you eat, you feel satisfied when you're done eating.

I know you're kidding about your prowess in the kitchen (you are kidding, right? ), but if you could learn to wrench a high-performance sports car correctly and drive it safely at well upwards of 100 mph (which apparently you have), you can master fried eggs and baked chicken.

You can buy that prepared salad in a bag -- the smaller bags have about three servings in them. Top off a serving with some tuna in a can or pouch or buy yourself one of those rotisserie chickens (or bake your own) and add some salad dressing and you've got a couple of meals just waiting to be eaten.

This is a big change in the way most Americans eat. But if eating differently means you avoid the traditional complications of diabetes, like vision problems, cardiac complications, nerve damage, slow healing, ... well, lots of us feel it was worth making the change. All of us here know people who were diagnosed as Type 2 and either didn't manage it or didn't think they could cut back on their carbs and suffered for their choices (a couple of passed friends of mine and my neighbor lady included). There's lots of help here in figuring out how to eat well on a budget or when pressed for time or with limited kitchen availability. You can do this.

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You can buy a couple double cheeseburgers, but just take off the bun and eat with a fork. With a side of pork rinds for crunch.

Try making scrambled eggs on a non-stick pan, with plenty of butter. Don't cook on a very high heat, and stop when eggs are set. They should just slide out of the pan. Top with some hard cheese and real bacon bits (if you aren't up to frying your own bacon) or chopped up deli ham.

I know it takes some getting used to when faced with a new way of eating. That's why we suggest all the links we have - it can take the mystery out of "what to eat".

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Morning itisssteve

No joking I cannot cook worth a ....

for 1 who wants to wash dishes, frying pan, etc in the AM before going to work.
I was eating the least pain in doing that and for 1 person I thought I was saving the greenies to save the world by not using the dish washer

Hey I was brought up as as kid in Chicago and if guys found out you cooked or did dishes you could find yourself with a black eye or worse
even the gals would laugh

For those of us at 1 point worked construction, last thing we want coming home and eating things we normally would not buy or would throw out

I rather have the test or motor oil in mouth then eating style all of you have done with type 2

Oh do not short change my Corvette, max speed had been 217 MPH winding through blind turns,
9 sec ET at drag race

Here is a few writeups I did for you wrenchers like me
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Or my main website, check out race results and other writeup I did

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Don't forget, JR, that's net carbs: the grams of carbohydrates on the package (or whatever you're using to learn the amount of carb grams) minus grams of fiber (or grams of "sugar alcohols", which are sugar substitutes we can discuss later). That leaves plenty of room for a breakfast of a couple of eggs and some bacon or sausage; a lunch of soup or a green salad with some meat or cheese on it, and even some of the fancier meals VeeJay linked to in the Diet forum. And since you can bump up the amount of fat you eat, you feel satisfied when you're done eating.

I know you're kidding about your prowess in the kitchen (you are kidding, right? ), but if you could learn to wrench a high-performance sports car correctly and drive it safely at well upwards of 100 mph (which apparently you have), you can master fried eggs and baked chicken.

You can buy that prepared salad in a bag -- the smaller bags have about three servings in them. Top off a serving with some tuna in a can or pouch or buy yourself one of those rotisserie chickens (or bake your own) and add some salad dressing and you've got a couple of meals just waiting to be eaten.

This is a big change in the way most Americans eat. But if eating differently means you avoid the traditional complications of diabetes, like vision problems, cardiac complications, nerve damage, slow healing, ... well, lots of us feel it was worth making the change. All of us here know people who were diagnosed as Type 2 and either didn't manage it or didn't think they could cut back on their carbs and suffered for their choices (a couple of passed friends of mine and my neighbor lady included). There's lots of help here in figuring out how to eat well on a budget or when pressed for time or with limited kitchen availability. You can do this.

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OK VeeJay and other type 2 pros (frankly I rather be a type 3'er :-)

Tell me what was wrong with this I eat last night

Marie Callenders - Cheesy chicken and white rice

22g of protein
430 calories
6g salt fat
870mg sodium
5g total sugar
45mg cholesterol
54g total carbohydrate
4g fiber
14g total fat
and some V8 juice
So you getting me up to speed which are bad, which to stomp on,
which should have lower values or not used at all ?

On another note does type 2 cause the skin to get reddish ?
I have seen this on me for like 2 years and not from the sun
like face and hands are reddish and shinny

Wow, so pay for a cheese burger and blame them and then skin it and throw it away !
Mc"d will hate me

This would be much easier if 20 years old but tough on some in there 60s to change their lifestyle

You'd have a fit if you knew what I'd eat when car racing !

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You can buy a couple double cheeseburgers, but just take off the bun and eat with a fork. With a side of pork rinds for crunch.

Try making scrambled eggs on a non-stick pan, with plenty of butter. Don't cook on a very high heat, and stop when eggs are set. They should just slide out of the pan. Top with some hard cheese and real bacon bits (if you aren't up to frying your own bacon) or chopped up deli ham.

I know it takes some getting used to when faced with a new way of eating. That's why we suggest all the links we have - it can take the mystery out of "what to eat".

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Label reading is the way to do it.

Your frozen dinner looks pretty good. A little high on carbs though. But, it has a decent amount of protein and fat. If you look for dinners that have the carbs(potatoes for instance) separate from the other ingredients, you could just skip them.

Many fast-food places will offer a "low carb" version - burger wrapped in lettuce. I used to get separate breakfast patties - without the biscuit. They were used to this kind of order and had a separate price for them. Didn't have to be tempted by the biscuit.

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Thanks VeeJay

So it was OK with the white rice ?
As I had read it was bad for us ?
As to carbs how much lower ?

In back of my mind thinking of making some spreadsheet I could simply add the values and with some formula and macro it computes end results which would help me do this right

Not sure for a guy telling a McD counter gal in front of everyone to pansy up a burger :-)

OK so going to read monitor tool's that damn little sized booklet with small print and if if I understand and just for you stab myself :-)

I have heard other go ... yourself but this is a new one for me


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Label reading is the way to do it.

Your frozen dinner looks pretty good. A little high on carbs though. But, it has a decent amount of protein and fat. If you look for dinners that have the carbs(potatoes for instance) separate from the other ingredients, you could just skip them.

Many fast-food places will offer a "low carb" version - burger wrapped in lettuce. I used to get separate breakfast patties - without the biscuit. They were used to this kind of order and had a separate price for them. Didn't have to be tempted by the biscuit.

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No, rice is not a good food for diabetics. It turns to glucose when digested and raises blood sugar. The dinner wasn't too bad except for the carbs, which were about 50g net - not good for one meal, but probably much better than you've been having, so its a step in the right direction.

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BTW, what is wrong with eating bread ?
what do I look for as what it consists of ?
Any what about saltine crackers
We're all different in how our body handles different foods. Bread spikes my blood sugar & when I have some, I need extra insulin. One of the unpleasant surprises for me was that the word "sugar" does not only mean candy, ice cream, cookies, etc. At diagnosis 10 years ago, I thought, "OK, I can limit those things." Then I learned about starches & processed carbs - bread, pasta, chips, etc. things that don't taste sweet but spike blood sugar because they are quickly converted to glucose. Anything made with flour (everything I like) will spike blood sugar. So will flourless whole grain or whole wheat bread. If it started out as a grain, it has carbs. I limit bread to one or two slices/week. Same with crackers.

I recommend testing a couple of hours after eating bread or crackers. The number will tell you how much you can have. And that may change with time.

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Here is my small Corvette forum
has only Corvette content, no vendors, ads, etc
Lots of techie content, U tube, ( only Corvette and racing)

BTW the nut I am did many Open Road races, that is where the event rents public roads and it shut down to public, roads are like 80-120 miles and mountain area such as in Nevada or Texas

Max speed I have done is 217 MPH so I am a bit of wacko

Interesting then is I have no problem doing that but do not want to stab my fingers

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You have a great sense of humor. I had to laugh about not wanting to stab your finger. I've seen You Tube videos of newly diagnosed diabetics doing just that ! I find that the index and middle finger are my favorite fingers to stick. My ring and pinky are way too soft.

Visited your website. Nice racer!

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teamzr1....hell, I too like to eat out often including fast food! You still can do the same, you just have to make a few changes...I eat on the road when traveling all the time. Stop at a Sonic and get a double cheese burger with mustard please, no catsup. Mayo is ok too! I take of the top bun, pitch it in the bag for trash, and use the bottom bun to allow me to hold the burger! When I take a bite I put my bottom teeth on top of the bottom bun, then take a big bite. When done I have a clean bun in my hand that I throw away. Not a problem at all.

Kentucky Fried Chicken is another easy to find meal! They have Roast Chicken, I order 2-3 pieces with their green beans....oh they do it right! Low Carb High Fat all the way!

It can be done and you do not have to cook!

For breakfast I have a large coffee with heavy whipping cream HWC (to add some fat) and a small tub of low fat Greek Yogurt with a fruit added... that has around 12-14 carbs. I add a little HWC to cream up the yogurt adding more fat. I know you think of yourself as not being a 'Yogurt' type of guy, but do you like tapioca pudding or vanilla pudding? Well this stuff is better, and is high fat and fairly low carb....keeps me full till lunch time!

Here is the real deal...you can manage your diabetes by eating low carb! Many do, but if you don't your doctors will put you on more meds to try and control your diabetes. Many of these newer drugs have some bad real side effects...

If you do not control your blood sugars in time, you will start having diabetic complications. We are all different and we get different problems at different times, but the better you control your blood sugar, the better chance you have! These complications are serious including loss of sight, loss of toes, feet, etc. Heart attacks, strokes, etc. etc. are all tied to diabetes...so this is serious stuff! One way of the other you will have to deal with it! Now is the time or it will be more difficult to get control as time goes buy....

A whole lot of us 'old guys' are on this same road you are now on! I made it, you can too...just jump on in, and learn the facts and start trying some new things....

Good luck


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