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Old 02-21-2020, 02:33   #1
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I just turned 48 last month and have always tried to fight this disease on my own. Come from a long list of diabetics (some still with me others have been taken) have always been physically active from sports up until my mid 30s to my new love, powerlifting. Sadly though I was wrong thinking I could do it.alone and was told today that by the docs guess I have been diabetic for about the past 5 yrs😔. My a1c came back at a 13.5 and frankly I'm scared beyond believe. I have tried to eat what I thought was right, wrong! So now I'm looking for help everywhere. If your type 2 you know some of the awful symptoms I'm dealing with and at 48 I'm not too happy at all. So any info is greatly appreciated it. Picked meds today and want to continue lifting ( yes of course also up my cardio) but not real sure on what to eat and not eat because to just say " no carbs" does not sound completely true?
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Hi, Gabriel. Welcome to the forum!

Yeah, that diagnosis is scary, isn't it -- especially when you know family members and friends who've gotten that diagnosis, too. But lots of people live very well by managing their diabetes, and there's no reason you can't do that, too.

Please take a look around this site (if you haven't already). There's a "sticky" post at the top of this forum called "Diabetes Resources To Help You Get Started" -- click on that and take a look at those videos and links. You'll do best when you know how your body manages blood glucose and insulin.

On this site, we believe strongly that what and how we eat affects our blood glucose levels. Our bodies need some carbohydrates, but nowhere near as many as most Americans (even most diabetics) eat. Depending on where you are with your diabetes, putting it into remission may be as simple as "just saying no to carbs": I was diagnosed Type 2 many years before I took the illness seriously; I started eating very low amounts of carbs and exercising more and my A1c has been below 6 since. And I'm not alone here in doing this.

Please take a look at those first links and then feel free to ask the questions that come up in your mind. This is a great place for support and information. I hope you take advantage of that and get better.

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Old 02-21-2020, 03:56   #3
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Very sorry you had the need to find us but glad you did. My A1c was higher than yours at dx so I can relate to the fear, and also to finding this place ASAP! That's what I did too.

While your A1c is high and concerning, it can and will come down if you make some dietary changes and get most of your carbs from vegetables. That means cut out grains, potatoes, sweets, rice, oatmeal, pizza, most fruit (some berries are okay), bread ... and once you get your bg under control you can figure out what you can reintroduce in what quantity. There are a lot of workarounds for our favorite foods.

Foods you can eat with abandon are meat, fish, cheese (full fat), eggs, vegetables (careful with the root ones though like beets, carrots, etc).

That's a basic starting place. It's overwhelming at first, but it gets better, I promise! There's light at the end of the tunnel and it doesn't have to be an oncoming train!

When I joined here I was directed to this site: https://www.bloodsugar101.com and devoured it. There is great information there from basic to more advanced. There are links to studies and back-up data for if/when you want to dig deeper.

Most importantly, don't forget to breathe You're going to be fine. Diabetes is very manageable, we just have to manage it.

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5/23/11 .. 6.2 . . . . . . . Low-carb/high healthy-fat diet
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Hi Jssfrk4life, welcome to the forum, but sorry that you had to come look for us.

Scared and confused describes almost every one of us when we found out we were diabetic. We understand those feelings completely. With a little research, your knowledge of diabetes will grow and then coping becomes much easier if you are willing to put in the effort. With your powerlifting interest, I think you won't mind doing some heavy lifting. Learn all you can about diabetes, you will find out you are your best health advocate. It won't take a lot of learning and you will probably know more than you doctor does. A good place to learn is at bloodsugar101 You will find that most everything you read there is backed up with the sources of where the information came from and not just someone blogging opinion. Next to knowledge, comes having the right tools. you need to have a blood glucose monitor to know what your BG is and how it is affected by foods, exercise, stress, illness, etc., despite what many doctors, dietitians, nutritionists tell you.

I don't think there is such a thing as no carbs. Even if you eat a totally carnivore diet, the muscle cells of the meat contain glycogen, which is stored sugars (carbs). If there were such a thing as no carbs, I'd be willing to try it. If you eat zero fat, you will die, if you eat no protein, you will die, if you eat no carbs, no big deal. The human body does require glucose, about 5% of your cells do rely upon glucose (blood sugar), however it does not require carbs to supply that glucose, the liver can easily do that from excess amino acids. Some of us here have had great success eating a very low carb diet. The main source of our blood glucose is from the carbs we eat, so the fewer carbs, the lower we can keep the BG. I try to stay at 30 grams of carbs a day or lower if I can. I sometimes exceed that 30 grams, but not usually by much.

There are lots of things you can eat and lots you can't, or rather shouldn't, eat. I hear people asking "Oh, you can't eat that, can you?" My reply is usually I can eat anything I want to, I just choose not too. I like keeping all of my body parts more than the risks of losing any of them. I think we were all misled about what is or isn't healthy. I ate "healthy" and thought I was doing great until I saw that most of the heart healthy, diabetic friendly stuff was doing to my blood sugars.

I'm engaged in a lot of physical activity where I work. I ride a road bike for fun and exercise, and often put in some good miles. I rode a couple of 100 mile rides, and several 40, 50, 60 mile rides this past year. I'll be 65 in a couple of months and am looking forward to riding several more long rides this year. I feel like I have more energy now than I did in my 40s and 50s. I eat a keto diet and don't usually carry anything with me but water on rides.

I prefer to manage .my diabetes with food and exercise and keep medications to a minimum. I do take metformin, not so much for diabetes, as for some of its other benefits. Like diabetes, I think learning about meds is important. There is a section of the Bloodsugar 101 website dedicated to teaching us about the drugs prescribed for diabetes, their benefits, their risk and potential side effects.

Having a lot of family history with diabetes, makes one more prone for being diagnosed with it. My take on diabetes, is that it is something that makes managing your blood sugar no longer a self regulating function. Like a car whose cruise control breaks. You now have to control the cars speed with the gas pedal and the brake pedal. You take care of them, and you get to where you're going safe and sound. You don't, and you've done wrecked.

Hang out here and ask questions, I know you've probably got a million, because I know I did. And there was someone here that could answer most all of them.

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My A1c was almost the same as yours in 2011 when I was diagnosed. I found this group and learned how to eat low carb and it was 6.1 the last time I had it checked.
I hope you'll stick around and interact with us--we can learn from each other!

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Thank you for the welcomes and info. First day of meds today, 850mg of metformin 2 times a day and 2mg of glimepiride once a day. Seems excessive to me but again a newby. Any thoughts, warnings, advice. Also started looking into the what to and not to eat, seems my protein shakes are ok, but mixed info on, bananas, other fruits, and coffee?
Hoping to have some time to hop on the link shared by a cple of you.
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Advice - monitor your blood sugar. A lot at first, then you can tapper off as you learn how different foods affect it. Learn about the meds you take. If you decide to try reducing carbs, you will probably stop eating as many processed foods as you do now. That means you will probably be dropping a lot of sodium intake, so you may have to pick up on your salt intake, I'd go with sea salt.

As far as ways of eating, a low carb high fat (LCHF) diet serves most of us well. You can search the web for the terms LCHF or Keto or low carb. You will probably find a multitude of sites supporting LCHF nowadays. Back when I first joined the forum there weren't too many. You may see the site dietdoctor.com pop up in the searches. Haven't looked at it in a while, but DietDoctor.com used to be highly recommended.

Coffee is kind of like eggs, they said they were bad for you, now they say they are good for you. Makes it difficult to know what to believe. I haven't shied away from either. I use coffee to help boost my fat intake with the stuff I put in it. You can check out bullet proof coffee.

Is your metformin regular or extended release?

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Supplemental vitamins and electrolytes
64 YY Love the LCHF diet. The cheese goes well with my whine

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Is anyone taking both metformin and glimepiride? Suggestions, thoughts, warnings? Starting 2nd week of meds 2mg of glimepiride once a day and 850mg of metformin 2 times a day. Have also more or less cut carbs out of diet.

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Glimepiride, a sulfonylurea, forces the beta cells to produce more insulin. Most type 2s most likely already have overstressed their beta cells. To me it just doesn't make sense to do that, especially when you read about how they and most of the other diabetes drugs work and the potential side effects they carry with them.

One thing to watch for taking something that creates more, and unpredictably when or how much more insulin, is that as you cut carbs your BG will go lower, and then the extra forced insulin production may kick in and will make it go even lower. If you see yours drop lower than you target for a goal, you have two choices, either pick back on the carbs (make more blood sugar) or back off on the meds. To me, picking the carbs back up would be like stepping on the gas a little more because the brakes pedal is getting too much pressure applied.

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Supplemental vitamins and electrolytes
64 YY Love the LCHF diet. The cheese goes well with my whine

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My understanding was that my doc put me on both to make a significant drop in my numbers since he thought I more than likely was averaging near 500 before the diagnosis? He said my change in diet would only account for 20 percent of my drop which would still leave me averaging like 300? So yes I have put carbs in the mirror ( which has made workouts tough) but rather than that if it will drop my numbers. Ideally I want to kick all meds even though the doc thinks I will have to be a lifer, strongly disagree but still new at this.

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