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I know diabetes gives us all some things to think about. But every now and then it poses a particular -- umm -- issue or even a blessing that you don't think about till it happens. That's what I'd like to see us put in this thread.

Sadly, I have to start off with a rant.

I'm on a kind-of business trip so I'm eating my meals at restaurants. Trying to be a good little keto-eating boy, I go a non-chain-type local breakfast place and order the build-to-order omelette. Spinach, cheddar cheese, and sausage.

The omelette comes with hash browns. I dutifully (and a little sadly) say "no hash browns", knowing that I likely wouldn't stop at just a forkful. Or two. The person taking the order asks, "What kind of toast do you want with that? White or wheat?" "Um, neither, thanks." Didn't even know toast came with it. The person taking the order offers, "You could have fruit on the side." No, I can't, but thank you.

So the one-item meal is the omelette, either bacon or sausage on the side, hash browns, and toast. I'm having trouble imagining that anyone eats all that in one sitting (I'm not sure I ever could).

And I'm having trouble imagining that by refusing the ingredients and labor associated with providing hash browns and toast, I don't get any break at all on the price of the item. I don't expect much, but maybe 50 cents or a buck on an $11 omelette that's missing two sides?
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I know diabetes gives us all some things to think about. But every now and then it poses a particular -- umm -- issue or even a blessing that you don't think about till it happens. That's what I'd like to see us put in this thread.

Sadly, I have to start off with a rant.

I'm on a kind-of business trip so I'm eating my meals at restaurants. Trying to be a good little keto-eating boy, I go a non-chain-type local breakfast place and order the build-to-order omelette. Spinach, cheddar cheese, and sausage.

The omelette comes with hash browns. I dutifully (and a little sadly) say "no hash browns", knowing that I likely wouldn't stop at just a forkful. Or two. The person taking the order asks, "What kind of toast do you want with that? White or wheat?" "Um, neither, thanks." Didn't even know toast came with it. The person taking the order offers, "You could have fruit on the side." No, I can't, but thank you.

So the one-item meal is the omelette, either bacon or sausage on the side, hash browns, and toast. I'm having trouble imagining that anyone eats all that in one sitting (I'm not sure I ever could).

And I'm having trouble imagining that by refusing the ingredients and labor associated with providing hash browns and toast, I don't get any break at all on the price of the item. I don't expect much, but maybe 50 cents or a buck on an $11 omelette that's missing two sides?
Breakfast out is always the same script. White bread or wheat? Hash browns? Grits? Fruit? No thank you. No thank you. No thank you. "You don't want any toast???????" No thank you. It's one of the things we have to deal with. :smile2:
I always use those weekly pill holders so I know I’ve taken what I need or not. One for morning stuff, one for evening stuff. Different colors too. I need all the help I can get.

Of course, I don’t do it because I’ve ever made that mistake.... nope not ever 🙄 🤦‍♀️ Lol
White bread or wheat?
This is off topic but...

I'm gluten intolerant but at restaurants I will just say I'm allergic to wheat. One waiter, a young, collage aged man, when I told him no to the bread that I was allergic to wheat, said: "we have white bread!"

:sad2:
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This is off topic but...

I'm gluten intolerant but at restaurants I will just say I'm allergic to wheat. One waiter, a young, collage aged man, when I told him no to the bread that I was allergic to wheat, said: "we have white bread!"

:sad2:
<-------shaking head
@rsfletcher - Although the risk isn't nearly as high for me, the other night I am 99.99% sure I took my Metformin dosage twice.

My tummy was definitely unhappy with me the next morning.
So every morning, I take my BP and one 500mg Metformin. I leave the 2nd 500 Metformin out on the counter along with my cholesterol med. That way, I know that I still need to take the rest of my Metformin. When I first started, I was taking all 1000mg in the morning, and I was spending a lot of time visiting the RR:crying:. My doc suggested that I take one in the am and the other in the pm. It has worked wonders for me.
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I hear you ... I am looked at by the waiter or waitress as being from out of this world when I ask for those items to be not included... "but honey this toast or fruit is really delicious and its good for you..." I respectfully decline; this happens also when we go out to eat at dinner. I have to give them specifics... I want the burger medium rare; no bun want extra lettuce and if you have real butter on the side. No butter blends; alternatives; nothing that the label would say it is healthy. And then my fasting blood sugar is still elevated next morning since I do not know what fillers they put into the burger....I mean really?
And then my fasting blood sugar is still elevated next morning since I do not know what fillers they put into the burger....I mean really?
I used to be "Mr. Restaurant" -- a new place opened and by the time my friends asked about it, I'd already been there. Those days are over...

I suppose they could come back. But it probably would mean ditching LCHF and ... well, it's only food, right?
For type 2 diabetics they should be focusing more on insulin resistance than finding ways to pushing more insulin to resolve high blood sugar.
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This is off topic but...

I'm gluten intolerant but at restaurants I will just say I'm allergic to wheat. One waiter, a young, collage aged man, when I told him no to the bread that I was allergic to wheat, said: "we have white bread!"

:sad2:

Ah.....the American edgeyoukatshun system...........what a wonderful thing.
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You know..........if I had the money.............

I'd open up a restaurant that is nothing but a' la carte. No "plate" specials, no "dinners", no breakfast "specials"..........just everything priced per item. You pick, you choose.

The Chinese actually have this kind of restaurant, it's called Dim Sum. You pick from a menu where all the items are separate. Mostly dumpling type foods, which you usually get 3 bite sized portions on one tiny plate. There are some other items as well, like some steamed/seasoned green plant that looks like a giant weed, but tastes a bit like broccoli. And it's all a' la carte. You can get full on $5 worth of dim sum and some tea.
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You know..........if I had the money.............

I'd open up a restaurant that is nothing but a' la carte. No "plate" specials, no "dinners", no breakfast "specials"..........just everything priced per item. You pick, you choose.

The Chinese actually have this kind of restaurant, it's called Dim Sum. You pick from a menu where all the items are separate. Mostly dumpling type foods, which you usually get 3 bite sized portions on one tiny plate. There are some other items as well, like some steamed/seasoned green plant that looks like a giant weed, but tastes a bit like broccoli. And it's all a' la carte. You can get full on $5 worth of dim sum and some tea.
I love Chinese cuisine, and it is amazing how people, can devise so many different things, with simple ingredients.
I figure that I would love Indian too, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
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I love Chinese cuisine, and it is amazing how people, can devise so many different things, with simple ingredients.
I figure that I would love Indian too, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
I absolutely LOVE hot curry!!!! Mmmm MMmm!!!
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I absolutely LOVE hot curry!!!! Mmmm MMmm!!!
There's an Indian restaurant just down the street from where I work. Fantastic but OMG - it really drives up my BGs. I suspect it's the rice they serve with the curry.

Interesting side note - one of my co-workers is an immigrant from India who just got his citizenship this year. He was telling me that many curry places in North America make their curry out of cream which tends to make it much richer - apparently from the part of India he's from they use yogurt for their curry.

My spouse makes curry the same way (yogurt) and it seems to have less of an impact on my BGs - we also use long grain rice instead of the over processed rice. The bleached over processed rice is comparable to eating candy based on my experiences.

I've always enjoyed eating - especially foods that have origins from other parts of the world. I just don't eat a lot :smile2:
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I absolutely LOVE hot curry!!!! Mmmm MMmm!!!
I tend to think that I would love everything about Indian cuisine, or most of it. I don't know anything about it, so I looked up a restaurant in my hometown. They are a popular destination, and have been in business so long, that I can't remember when they opened.

This sounds like it would be great, but it might tend to blow up my BS. Maybe I am entrenched with American cuisine, and all I am doing is using transference; because this sounds pretty close to KFC.

CHICKEN PAKORA $4.50
Boneless tender pieces of chicken breast deep fried in seasoned batter mix.

[From the looks of the site, they have a 3 hour lunch and a 5 hour dinner period. That hole in the middle of the day, must make for some really creative work shifts.]
There's an Indian restaurant just down the street from where I work. Fantastic but OMG - it really drives up my BGs. I suspect it's the rice they serve with the curry.

Interesting side note - one of my co-workers is an immigrant from India who just got his citizenship this year. He was telling me that many curry places in North America make their curry out of cream which tends to make it much richer - apparently from the part of India he's from they use yogurt for their curry.

My spouse makes curry the same way (yogurt) and it seems to have less of an impact on my BGs - we also use long grain rice instead of the over processed rice. The bleached over processed rice is comparable to eating candy based on my experiences.

I've always enjoyed eating - especially foods that have origins from other parts of the world. I just don't eat a lot :smile2:

Yeah, they use yogurt mostly for their dairy staple in cooking.

I've had curry before that didn't have rice with it. It was more of a stew.......mostly chunks of veggies with some meat, and then that super sauce with all the spices in it. Of course, it could have been just the dish itself, or the restaurants own specialty, I don't remember.

I would suspect curry would be really good on zoodles or Shirataki noodles. With the exception of one dish, I prefer noodles to rice....which my Dr said is better for me anyway.
Just got back from lunch and this has generated a rant. My spouse and I decided to try a new Vegan place that markets itself as a healthy eating experience. So I thought, worth a try - we got there and looked at their menu and what did they have - sweet sauces on their salads and sandwiches, pretend meat which was heavily salted Tofu and carb rich vegetables.
It amazes me how healthy nutrition gets hijacked - won't be going back to that place.
I know what you mean. I hate it when I order cole slaw and it's loaded with sugar. I guess 'healthy' means different things to different people.
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These days, "healthy" means low or no fat. Can be loaded with sugar or composed mostly of starch, but if it's low-fat, it's "good for you".
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looking at the low-carb recipe collection on Pinterest, i didnt see anything with two legs, 4 legs, a tail, or swims in the ocean.
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Just got back from lunch and this has generated a rant. My spouse and I decided to try a new Vegan place that markets itself as a healthy eating experience. So I thought, worth a try - we got there and looked at their menu and what did they have - sweet sauces on their salads and sandwiches, pretend meat which was heavily salted Tofu and carb rich vegetables.
It amazes me how healthy nutrition gets hijacked - won't be going back to that place.


Yeah, I know what you mean. No offense to anyone......but any place, product, or company that claims "all natural", "healthy alternative", or "organic" has me rolling on the floor laughing my hiney off.

It's all a gimmick to mark up prices on stuff that everybody else has for less. I don't care who sells it, what they call it, or where they claim it came from.

One canned food company will can the same product under 10 different labels, with 10 different ingredient lists on each of those labels. But yet they are all the same. The industry calls it a "marketing gimmick". In reality, it's fraud, and it's illegal. But the government doesn't do anything because it makes money for these companies. Companies that pay off a LOT of government offices to "look the other way" or "take them at their word" when a company tells them it's just a "marketing gimmick".

Another example is a dairy farm. One dairy farm can produce the SAME gallon of milk under 10+ labels/names/brands. It's all the same stuff, from the same place, from the same manufacturing equipment, from the same livestock. But each of these different labels carries it's own different price range and brand image.

Whole Foods is a scam beyond reason. Most of the foods they sell there are from the same farms/production facilities that sell to the regular grocery stores. It's SO easy to slap a label on something and call it "organic". But what YOU call "organic" and what the COMPANY selling that product defines as "organic" are different beyond comprehension. According to a company that produces food items..........an apple off of an apple tree is, in reality, an organic item...regardless of how it got there, or what was used to get it to that point.

Even car companies do it. One engine and one chassis will be sold under 2-5 different "models", brand names, or labels. The only thing they change is the body and dash, which are just window dressing really.

Restaurants, fast food, gasoline...........it's the same all across the board.

The whole modern world revolves around lies, gimmicks, and fraud. There's nothing you can do about it. All you can do is pick one fraud that best suits your needs and stick with it.

I learned a LOT from working different sects of retail when I was younger. The entire consumer industry is a scam and a fraud.

There are SOME places who attempt to do the right thing, but usually they don't last long or get run out of business by a bigger business that works the game better than the little guy.


Oh.......wait...........this IS the rant thread, isn't it?

WHEW!
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