[dixiesilverfox]

At 2 PM today Bob Green a fitness trainer is going to discuss preventing and reversing diabetes. That is EST
Richard

 

[Richard157]

On TV? Which network?

 

[dixiesilverfox]

NBC (National Brodcasting Corp.) It on channel 6 in Maine.
richard

 

[Richard157]

I saw his diabetes presentation today, it was very well done! Thanks!!!

 

[dixiesilverfox]

Your welcome. I missed the diet part though or didn't understand it. I don't know what he was talking about when he was talking about breakfast, lunch and dinner. Did you?
Richard

 

[Richard157]

I was reading emails during the show and I don't remember that part at the moment. I was impressed at his examining people on the street and esentially diagnosing them on the spot. Very impressive!

 

[dixiesilverfox]

What I like about him is he pushes the envelope. He had a perosn on their one day who had grown part of his finger back by implanting his own stem cells. Ther is those words again:>)
Richard

 

[diabetes709]

I searched him on the net, not being able to see the show. I don't put much faith in folks like him. He strikes me as very misleading. He also is fascinated with the term pre-diabetes which I think its a horrific word, and a terrible way of making people think they can get away without getting diabetes. I am gonna be wrong in most people's eyes, but you either have it, or you don't. There is no such thing as pre-diabetes, and if there is, every person has it, since if you eat crappy, don't exercise and have genetic disposition for it, or any of several other markers, you are likely to get it. Its giving false hope.

So, on his show, what did he say about reversing diabetes? Since no one else knowns how to do this, how is it that he knows, and the word is not out? I am always skeptical of people who have the "cure" for something, and for a small fee of say, $29.95 for the book, they will save your life.

But that's just me, and I will never argue that I am a serious cynic. Its just that now that I know I have this disease, I take commentary like what he said, very seriously, and don't like to have smoke blown up my skirt.

In one video, he had this table of a days worth of food, and it was pathetic, but he and his hostess fawned over it like he had found the fountain of youth and that diabetics should not be saying how hard it is to find food that they can eat which is good for them. Nothing was there that is not in any diabetic food book.

The person who finds a cure for diabetes will give it away, not sell it piecemeal to desperate, uninformed persons.

Plus, I really don't like Oprah, so he has two strikes against him, right out of the box, to me

 

[dixiesilverfox]

Whew! I am different than you. I am an optimist. If you don't think there is a cure their never will be one for you. And that is OK. FYI they cure diabetes at Cairo University in Egypt and Calgary University, in Canada.
Why don't we hear about them? Do you think the drug companies have anything to say about that? Also, we can buy drugs so much cheaper in Cananda, but the govt. doesn't allow statews to do that. I wonder why.

However, I respect your opinion and we all have one,
Richard

 

[diabetes709]

Whew! I am different than you. I am an optimist. If you don't think there is a cure their never will be one for you. And that is OK. FYI they cure diabetes at Cairo University in Egypt and Calgary University, in Canada.
Why don't we hear about them? Do you think the drug companies have anything to say about that? Also, we can buy drugs so much cheaper in Cananda, but the govt. doesn't allow statews to do that. I wonder why.

However, I respect your opinion and we all have one,
Richard

Uhhh, I never said there would not be a cure for diabetes, but I am calling you out on your statement that Universities at Cairo and Calgary know how to cure it. You can't just just say it, and hide behind the conspiracy theories of big pharma and the government.

If they can cure diabetes in Calgary, why have you not gone there, and been cured?

Several million people in Canada have diabetes, and you think that the government is hiding the cure? Egypt is said to have 5 million diabetics, according to one study. They have a cure, but won't tell 5 million people?

I may be a self confessed cynic, but you are a serious conspiracy theorist. <shrug>

John

 

[dixiesilverfox]

Your name is John? I thought you said blow smoke up your skirt. I thought you were a woman.
You are cynic and nothing will cure that:>)
As I said you are entitled to your opinion. You sound angry about your diabetes, but want me to prove to you that this is true. When you call either college they will not give you any answers and you don't think the drug companies are involved.As I said before opinions are like rectums we all have one and your entitled to yours.
Amen.

 

[diabetes709]

Your name is John? I thought you said blow smoke up your skirt. I thought you were a woman.
You are cynic and nothing will cure that:>)
As I said you are entitled to your opinion. You sound angry about your diabetes, but want me to prove to you that this is true. When you call either college they will not give you any answers and you don't think the drug companies are involved.As I said before opinions are like rectums we all have one and your entitled to yours.
Amen.

Its just a phrase people use to accuse those who are trying to get away with false statements. Relax.

I admitted I am a cynic, so you need not repeat it as if you are the one who figured it out.

I have challenged you to back up your claim, and if you cannot, they you need to retract it. People come here for help and you going around lying about the fact that there is a cure, fills them with false hope, and does them no good at all.

If you want to get ugly, bring it on. They can have my little moderator medallion if they want, but I am not going to sit here and let people tell phony stories about something as important as a cure for diabetes, in a forum where people with diabetes come for friendship, information, emotional support, and comfort.

I am not angry about my diabetes. I am angry at you for propagating falsehoods in this forum. Prove me wrong, and I will apologize as much as you want. How come you haven't gone to Calgary and been cured of diabetes? I say its because there is no such thing, and you have no proof of it to offer up. My opinion doesn't matter. What matters is you are telling countless sick people that there is a cure for them. Go ahead, explain it to them.

Either put up your sources for such an outrageous claim, or take it back and admit you are making it up. You owe the readers here that much.

 

[dixiesilverfox]

Its just a phrase people use to accuse those who are trying to get away with false statements. Relax.

I admitted I am a cynic, so you need not repeat it as if you are the one who figured it out.

I have challenged you to back up your claim, and if you cannot, they you need to retract it. People come here for help and you going around lying about the fact that there is a cure, fills them with false hope, and does them no good at all.

If you want to get ugly, bring it on. They can have my little moderator medallion if they want, but I am not going to sit here and let people tell phony stories about something as important as a cure for diabetes, in a forum where people with diabetes come for friendship, information, emotional support, and comfort.

I am not angry about my diabetes. I am angry at you for propagating falsehoods in this forum. Prove me wrong, and I will apologize as much as you want. How come you haven't gone to Calgary and been cured of diabetes? I say its because there is no such thing, and you have no proof of it to offer up. My opinion doesn't matter. What matters is you are telling countless sick people that there is a cure for them. Go ahead, explain it to them.

Either put up your sources for such an outrageous claim, or take it back and admit you are making it up. You owe the readers here that much.

First of all take a chill pill before you have a stroke and you won't have to be concerned about your diabetes.

Second I have managed to take myself off drugs and have kept my diabetes very stable with diet and supplements. So you can cure yourself. Being a cynic you never will. You have to believe you can.

Third here are two books to read-"The Biology Of Belief" by Bruce. H. Lipton PH.D and "Soul Medicine" by Norman Shealy M.D., PH.D & Dawson Chuch, PH.D
Richard OBrien

 

[dixiesilverfox]

Also, I never said there was a cure for diabetes. What I said is that they cure diabetes at Cairo Univ, Egypt, and Calgary Univ., Canada.

 

[diabetes709]

First of all take a chill pill before you have a stroke and you won't have to be concerned about your diabetes.

Second I have managed to take myself off drugs and have kept my diabetes very stable with diet and supplements. So you can cure yourself. Being a cynic you never will. You have to believe you can.

Third here are two books to read-"The Biology Of Belief" by Bruce. H. Lipton PH.D and "Soul Medicine" by Norman Shealy M.D., PH.D & Dawson Chuch, PH.D
Richard OBrien

I take no meds. My A1c is 5.0. I am not cured. There is no cure for diabetes. The rest of your commentary is just hot air and incendiary.

I asked you for proof, you cannot provide it. Therefore, you told a lie, and did so in a public forum where people come for support, help, and comfort from a terrible disease. Giving them false hope, just because you got off meds, is an awful thing to do. You are still a diabetic and you know it.

As for your followup post, wherein you say you never said there was a cure, only that they cure diabetes in Cairo and Calgary? That is pure liberal logic thinking. Next, you will try to tell me that it depends on the meaning of the word "is"

If there is no cure, how are they curing it? Doublespeak is all you have.

I challenged you, you haven't responded to that challenge. Just danced, and elevated the temperature of the posts. I am finished here because you won't stay on the subject, you would rather assume I am angry about my diabetes, when I already told you I am not at all concerned, but I am angry as hell towards you and your lies.

Do you not see what a stupid statement it is, to say you have kept your diabetes stable, and claim that it means you no longer have the disease. Are you that much in denial, that you think everyone who controls their disease, no longer has it? You need help. $10 says you reply that I am the one who needs help, but I am not in denial about my diabetes. You are.

 

[diabetes709]

Also, I never said there was a cure for diabetes. What I said is that they cure diabetes at Cairo Univ, Egypt, and Calgary Univ., Canada.

If there is no, cure how is it that they are curing diabetes?

Completely illogical, and words of desperation.

Doh!!!

 

[Richard157]

Richard O, the word "cure" should be replaced by "reversal" in all your posts. Please refer to it as a reversal in your future posts. When a Type 2 diabetic can stop medication and have an A1c below 6.0 consistently then the diabetes has been reversed, but not cured. There is a big difference, as John has stated.

A Type 1 diabetic cannot ever stop taking insulin but reducing the amount of insulin needed and having an A1c below 6.0 is somewhat of a reversal. My A1c's have been below 6.0 for many years and my total daily insulin dosage is much less than it used to be, so there is a reversal in my case. If I get careless and forget my insulin before a meal then my BG rises abruptly. I am always aware my Type 1 is there.

Islet cell transplants have been in the news and in the websites for quite some time now but no newscast has said a "cure" for diabetes has been found. If there was a cure then all of us would know about it. I have read about some diabetics in South America who were given islet cells and their diabetes improved significantly and some people on insulin were able to stop insulin, but only for a while. Their diabetes returned later on. It was much like a Type 1 diabetic receiving a pancreas transplant. I know several people who have had transplants. They usually fail after some time has passed but no insulin was needed while the transplant was working properly. I would be willing to call that a "temporary cure". I have not read about any diabetic who had a pancreas transplant that worked properly for many years. That is why some diabetics have had repeated transplants. If I was offered a transplant I would refuse to accept. My control is very good and I have no complications after 64 years, so a transplant does not appeal to me. I do not need a transplant.