[diabetes86]

I really get tired of people saying they "eat healthy"

What is eating healthy... depends.
Normal "healthy diet is eating to the food pyramid (NOT HEALTHFUL FOR DIABETICS)
a "hart Healthful diet" is high on carbs low on fats. again (NOT HEALTHFUL FOR DIABETICS)

I cant count the number of times a newb says "I m eating healthy why are me BG so high". only to find out (after many posts) that they are eating a hart healthy diet.

Please dont say your "eating healthy" tell us how you eat IE. food pyramid, Atkins, low carb, south beach, vegan, vegan low carb...

 

[xdunlapx]

Newly diagnosed people may not know that carbs are what is their downfall. So they may be eating healthy (for a non-diabetic) and think that's what they should do. Teaching not yelling at people is the better way to handle the situation.

 

[Shanny]

It's an uphill climb against a lot of pseudo-experts who insist that human bodies need carbs to function. They also insist that fats are bad. Neither of these concepts is based on truth. Our bodies need glucose or ketones for fuel to function, and all of that can be produced by our bodies from protein and fats. Just because every headline, best-selling diet book, and infomercial spouts these statements, does not make them true.

How to Lower Your Blood Sugar

 

[Joshua Shorter]

I know when I first thought had the suspicion that I was diabetic I started eating what I thought was healthy. This was before I was actually diagnosed and obviously before I had seen a diabetic instructor or my endo. I started eating more fruits and less meat. This was EXACLTY the opposite of what I needed to be doing.
Once I was corrected I started eating diabetic right. I see exactly what you mean. I thought that sugar was bad but did not even think about bread, rice, fruit, ect. being harmful for the diabetic.

 

[Shanny]

And the sad fact is, a lot of what is marketed as "healthy" anymore, is not only not healthy for diabetics, it isn't really healthy for anyone else either. Removing the fat from yogurt (for example) & adding carby starches to maintain the consistency - and then calling it healthier still because it's low or non-fat - gotta be the biggest scam in dairy history. Yogurt is one of the healthiest foods in the world, and practically predigested. It can be used as a nutritious base for all kinds of sauces, dressings, gravies, etc. Why in the world would the food industry decide they could improve on yogurt?! But they think so . . . and it makes me crazy! :madgrin:

 

[diabetes86]

And the sad fact is, a lot of what is marketed as "healthy" anymore, is not only not healthy for diabetics, it isn't really healthy for anyone else either. Removing the fat from yogurt (for example) & adding carby starches to maintain the consistency - and then calling it healthier still because it's low or non-fat - gotta be the biggest scam in dairy history. Yogurt is one of the healthiest foods in the world, and practically predigested. It can be used as a nutritious base for all kinds of sauces, dressings, gravies, etc. Why in the world would the food industry decide they could improve on yogurt?! But they think so . . . and it makes me crazy! :madgrin:

Its not the food industry, its the consumer demanding low fat, forcing the manufacturer to make it taste good.

Look at canned tuna. tuna packed in water is fishy smelling and fishy tasting. get the same tuna in Olive oil (olive oil is a good oil) it its a different animal. But... OMG it's got OIL

chicken white meat VS dark meat. the difference in fat content is negligible but the difference in taste WOW.

 

[lawprop]

I really get tired of people saying they "eat healthy"

What is eating healthy... depends.
Normal "healthy diet is eating to the food pyramid (NOT HEALTHFUL FOR DIABETICS)
a "hart Healthful diet" is high on carbs low on fats. again (NOT HEALTHFUL FOR DIABETICS)

I cant count the number of times a newb says "I m eating healthy why are me BG so high". only to find out (after many posts) that they are eating a hart healthy diet.

Please dont say your "eating healthy" tell us how you eat IE. food pyramid, Atkins, low carb, south beach, vegan, vegan low carb...

Hi Diabetes86

I'm one of those newbies that thought and declared on this forum I "Thought I was eating a healthy diet". I came here for advice from people more experienced then I, who know better then I do what a healthy diet is for a diabetic. I thought that was kind of the point of the introduce yourself forum.

Quote from the header of the forum "The main aim of our community is to share experiences, knowledge and help increase the understanding and awareness of Diabetes."

The support and guidance I have received from the very freindly people here has helped me understand my errors and change my diet from containing lots of fresh fruit, fruit juices, whole grain rice and whole grain breads to a low carb diet and within 2 days my BG has dropped from 7 (126) to 5.3 (95) without the aid of medication.

I have never been on a forum before in my life and to have a safe and welcoming place where help and support are given so generously has made a massive difference to me both emotionally and physically.

So a big thank you to those members with the patience and generosity to take the time to point us newbies in the right direction.

And to Diabetes 86, if newbies irritate you to the pint of ranting, can I suggest you save yourself the stress and limit your time in the forum where we start out on our search for knowledge.

 

[breezeonby]

Hi Diabetes86

I'm one of those newbies that thought and declared on this forum I "Thought I was eating a healthy diet". I came here for advice from people more experienced then I, who know better then I do what a healthy diet is for a diabetic. I thought that was kind of the point of the introduce yourself forum.

Quote from the header of the forum "The main aim of our community is to share experiences, knowledge and help increase the understanding and awareness of Diabetes."

The support and guidance I have received from the very freindly people here has helped me understand my errors and change my diet from containing lots of fresh fruit, fruit juices, whole grain rice and whole grain breads to a low carb diet and within 2 days my BG has dropped from 7 (126) to 5.3 (95) without the aid of medication.

I have never been on a forum before in my life and to have a safe and welcoming place where help and support are given so generously has made a massive difference to me both emotionally and physically.

So a big thank you to those members with the patience and generosity to take the time to point us newbies in the right direction.

And to Diabetes 86, if newbies irritate you to the pint of ranting, can I suggest you save yourself the stress and limit your time in the forum where we start out on our search for knowledge.

Just so that you know, we love newbies here! You give us the opportunity to share what has helped us in our journey to control diabetes! Everyone is new at some point!

 

[onaughmae]

Hi Diabetes86

I'm one of those newbies that thought and declared on this forum I "Thought I was eating a healthy diet". I came here for advice from people more experienced then I, who know better then I do what a healthy diet is for a diabetic. I thought that was kind of the point of the introduce yourself forum.

Quote from the header of the forum "The main aim of our community is to share experiences, knowledge and help increase the understanding and awareness of Diabetes."

The support and guidance I have received from the very freindly people here has helped me understand my errors and change my diet from containing lots of fresh fruit, fruit juices, whole grain rice and whole grain breads to a low carb diet and within 2 days my BG has dropped from 7 (126) to 5.3 (95) without the aid of medication.

I have never been on a forum before in my life and to have a safe and welcoming place where help and support are given so generously has made a massive difference to me both emotionally and physically.

So a big thank you to those members with the patience and generosity to take the time to point us newbies in the right direction.

And to Diabetes 86, if newbies irritate you to the pint of ranting, can I suggest you save yourself the stress and limit your time in the forum where we start out on our search for knowledge.

Hey lawprop...congrats on your progress! Good job.

I can see the frustration tho. Not so much with people that just dont know any better....but frustration with what mainstream media pushes as a healthy diet. I cant tell you how many things I have picked up in stores to look at that were specifically marketed toward diabetics....low sugar, etc.....and found them to be loaded with carbs! It should be a crime to mislead people. One of the biggest culprits is diabetic, sugar free candy. What a joke! Loaded with carbs..you might as well eat a piece of the real deal and plan for it. No wonder new diabetics have such a hard time getting in control. I have even seen a breakfast suggestion for a diabetic consisting of oatmeal, skim milk and a banana...omg! Its just crazy...

 

[xdunlapx]

Are bananas full of carbs? If so that really bites. I love bananas. I wouldn't eat more than one a day but it's a treat when I eat a banana. Yum.

 

[Shanny]

Are bananas full of carbs? If so that really bites. I love bananas. I wouldn't eat more than one a day but it's a treat when I eat a banana. Yum.

All you can do is eat one & test. They send my BG way too high, but others are able to handle them once in awhile.

Sometimes these best-loved foods can be worked into meals where there are NO other carbs - that way you can enjoy the treat and you have a little wiggle room because the rest of the meal didn't affect your BG.

 

[breezeonby]

Are bananas full of carbs? If so that really bites. I love bananas. I wouldn't eat more than one a day but it's a treat when I eat a banana. Yum.

One small banana (6 inches) 23 carbs.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

Bananas and grapes are the worst as far as natural sugar goes.
Both very high in it.

I don't mind newbs at all, i just wish that more of em would stick around for more than 5 posts lol

 

[foxl]

I can eat 1/2 a banana, once in a great, great while. 1/2. I fortunately have kids to share with. It has been a long time, though.

And I eat it with peanut butter to slow the carbs down, a little.

 

[lawprop]

Still here! There is so much helpfull info in this forum I can't help but come back. I keep tweeking my diet and testing my BG (Not that I'm obsessed or anything) and it is all over the place. It's a Big, Big learning curve.

 

[cathyy]

I believe the proper size banana serving is half a banana for a diabetic. It's not that they are bad. Eat the whole durn banana, but be sure to account for it being 2 servings!

Worse was the oatmeal and skim milk. Oats are almost as bad as wheat. Their glycemic index ranges from 42 to 87, with the 42 for steel-cut oats or really, really thick rolled oats, and the 87 for instant oatmeal. Regular oats have a lower glycemic index than quick-cooking, which have a lower index than instant. If you combine those 5 minute oats with some fat to slow the carb absorption some people can eat them for breakfast. Eliminate the fat by using skim milk, and you maximize how fast those carbs will hit. That "recommended" breakfast is like a carb trifecta for diabetics.

 

[foxl]

Eliminate the fat by using skim milk, and you maximize how fast those carbs will hit. That "recommended" breakfast is like a carb trifecta for diabetics.

EXACTLY! eace: Great post.

 

[Adjitater]

This is why I am glad that I have type 1. Yes I have to count the carbs but not to limit them but so I know how much insulin to take. Sky is the limit and there are no foods that are off limits as long as I can count the carbs and estimate the fat I am all set.

 

[Jen]

This is why I am glad that I have type 1. Yes I have to count the carbs but not to limit them but so I know how much insulin to take. Sky is the limit and there are no foods that are off limits as long as I can count the carbs and estimate the fat I am all set.

Wow. I have not found this to be true at all. By eliminating starchy carbs and reducing exposure to the foods (like most fruits) that cause me huge spikes, I am able to limit the amount of insulin I use. It has also allowed me to maintain my weight. Everyone is different, of course, but the cost of eating that banana or baked potato just isn't worth it to me .

Jen

 

[Adjitater]

Wow. I have not found this to be true at all. By eliminating starchy carbs and reducing exposure to the foods (like most fruits) that cause me huge spikes, I am able to limit the amount of insulin I use. It has also allowed me to maintain my weight. Everyone is different, of course, but the cost of eating that banana or baked potato just isn't worth it to me .

Jen

I just don't see the advantage of taking less insulin and starving. There is no such thing as a spike that is too big for a good meal like Smothered burritos or spagetti or baked mac and cheese. I like good food and I will take as much insulin as it takes.:hungry: