Fasting blood sugar getting high

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PhoenixFire

Discussion Starter · Jun 19, 2021

Back in early 2019, I managed to keep my fasting glucose levels around 7.0 to 8.0 (Canadian measurement). Fast forward to June 2021, and my fasting level is 8.5 to 9.7 (it was really bad this morning with the 9.7). I'm on Jardiance and worry about the long term effects of being on that. The doctor recommended Ozempic, but I don't like the idea of injecting myself with medication. My doctor also doesn't think diets work, because 95% of people who go on them fail (not very inspiring). He recommended that stomach stapling surgery, but I don't feel I'm that obese.

My main question is: How on Earth do I fix the psychological part of why I'm eating? Covid has meant more isolation but I don't get why I'm eating so much. To make things worse, I don't like to cook. I have next to no interest in it. I eat a lot of Lean Cuisine meals, plus a graze on a lot of stuff. I recently cut out dark chocolate (I was having 100g a day) and this helped at first, but I just got so hungry and ate other stuff. I tried walking more (twice a day instead of once a day), but this seems to have made me more hungry, tired and cranky. Sometimes at night, I have trouble breathing, and so I eat a few triscuits. I can breath better after doing so, and also fall asleep, but eating so late means my fasting glucose levels will be higher.

I'm being treated for schizophrenia (it's a hell-ride of a mental illness), so I'm no meds for that, but I can't afford counselling. Is there a good book I can read? Has anyone come across a book that gave them an epiphany of some kind?

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itissteve

· #2 · Jun 19, 2021

tbh a counselor really will help you. Even just talking things out with someone who's engaged but not that close to you can help you clarify reasons for things you do. Many places have at least one service that will offer counseling on a sliding fee scale (if money or insurance is an issue). I'm not sure who you could contact in Canada but if this is of interest to you, I'll see what I can find on the Web.

I'm afraid I don't have any books to recommend. I can tell you that my epiphany was seeing my grandkids and realizing that if I didn't manage my diabetes well, I likely would not have a chance to watch them graduate high school or college, go on outings with them, and so on. All of a sudden, being able to eat potatoes and donuts wasn't worth it for me. That was the price of sticking around for my grandkids.

Maybe grandchildren are not in your picture. Is there something else in your life that has enough of a horizon for you to keep it in front of you as the alternative to fridge raids and treats? Maybe getting off the Jardience or whatever may come next? As I started choosing that future over the immediate gratification of food, I saw some success -- and that made it easier to keep going. Just something that gets the ball rolling for you.

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PhoenixFire

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 20, 2021

itissteve said:
tbh a counselor really will help you. Even just talking things out with someone who's engaged but not that close to you can help you clarify reasons for things you do. Many places have at least one service that will offer counseling on a sliding fee scale (if money or insurance is an issue). I'm not sure who you could contact in Canada but if this is of interest to you, I'll see what I can find on the Web.

I'm afraid I don't have any books to recommend. I can tell you that my epiphany was seeing my grandkids and realizing that if I didn't manage my diabetes well, I likely would not have a chance to watch them graduate high school or college, go on outings with them, and so on. All of a sudden, being able to eat potatoes and donuts wasn't worth it for me. That was the price of sticking around for my grandkids.

Maybe grandchildren are not in your picture. Is there something else in your life that has enough of a horizon for you to keep it in front of you as the alternative to fridge raids and treats? Maybe getting off the Jardience or whatever may come next? As I started choosing that future over the immediate gratification of food, I saw some success -- and that made it easier to keep going. Just something that gets the ball rolling for you.

Thanks for commenting. I'll look into a counsellor with a sliding fee scale. I have no husband, kids, or pets. Maybe that's my problem. I'd get a pet but I'm very easily distracted so the pet would just interfere with what I'm doing. There's nothing on the horizon that's very important, or even remotely important.

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itissteve

· #4 · Jun 20, 2021

PhoenixFire said:
There's nothing on the horizon that's very important, or even remotely important.

Well, then, that leaves goals in causes you care about (hunger, teen moms, animal rights, privacy, etc.) ... or ... you.

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PhoenixFire

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jun 20, 2021

itissteve said:
Well, then, that leaves goals in causes you care about (hunger, teen moms, animal rights, privacy, etc.) ... or ... you.

I can't seem to get interested in causes.

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Tstewartjr

· #6 · Jul 11, 2021

PhoenixFire said:
Back in early 2019, I managed to keep my fasting glucose levels around 7.0 to 8.0 (Canadian measurement). Fast forward to June 2021, and my fasting level is 8.5 to 9.7 (it was really bad this morning with the 9.7). I'm on Jardiance and worry about the long term effects of being on that. The doctor recommended Ozempic, but I don't like the idea of injecting myself with medication. My doctor also doesn't think diets work, because 95% of people who go on them fail (not very inspiring). He recommended that stomach stapling surgery, but I don't feel I'm that obese.

My main question is: How on Earth do I fix the psychological part of why I'm eating? Covid has meant more isolation but I don't get why I'm eating so much. To make things worse, I don't like to cook. I have next to no interest in it. I eat a lot of Lean Cuisine meals, plus a graze on a lot of stuff. I recently cut out dark chocolate (I was having 100g a day) and this helped at first, but I just got so hungry and ate other stuff. I tried walking more (twice a day instead of once a day), but this seems to have made me more hungry, tired and cranky. Sometimes at night, I have trouble breathing, and so I eat a few triscuits. I can breath better after doing so, and also fall asleep, but eating so late means my fasting glucose levels will be higher.

I'm being treated for schizophrenia (it's a hell-ride of a mental illness), so I'm no meds for that, but I can't afford counselling. Is there a good book I can read? Has anyone come across a book that gave them an epiphany of some kind?

check the Adkins diet, and the Low Glycemic LoadDiet, by Doctor Rob Thompson. Investigate, your doctor is no help. Cinammon capsules help controlblood sugar, as do other naturals. I was diagnosed 16 year ago with an a1c of 12.5. Wanted to put me on insulin. No insulin for me, and my a1c spikes on occasion, but is almost always between 6 and 7. No eye damage. You can do it, but you need to investigate for your self. I once had a doc tell me, I never tell a patient this, but keep doing exactly what you are doing.

check out Glycemic Load, GL. Glycemic Index, that is always used, even by the Diabetes, is worthless. Get the books, about $10 each I beleive.

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PhoenixFire

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jul 12, 2021 (Edited)

Tstewartjr said:
check the Adkins diet, and the Low Glycemic LoadDiet, by Doctor Rob Thompson. Investigate, your doctor is no help. Cinammon capsules help controlblood sugar, as do other naturals. I was diagnosed 16 year ago with an a1c of 12.5. Wanted to put me on insulin. No insulin for me, and my a1c spikes on occasion, but is almost always between 6 and 7. No eye damage. You can do it, but you need to investigate for your self. I once had a doc tell me, I never tell a patient this, but keep doing exactly what you are doing.

check out Glycemic Load, GL. Glycemic Index, that is always used, even by the Diabetes, is worthless. Get the books, about $10 each I beleive.

As I said in my first post, I have trouble doing diets, and I don't like cooking. I go on them, go off them, and gain weight again (which is no surprise since a 95% of people who go on diets can't stick to one..this stat is scientifically backed.). I know what I should be eating. I did a lot of sports once. I'm just not highly motivated to eat properly. My problem is psychological. I'm looking at years and years of suffering with schizophrenia, probably the rest of my life, unless someone comes up with a much better treatment. It's hard to fight this without a purpose of some kind which I can't find no matter how hard I look.

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