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I am a 49 year old male newly diagnosed with diabetes. I was self diagnosed
a couple of years ago and tried to manage with diet and exercise but finally wound up on oral medication. It went well the first month (both pre and post meal bg was great) but now 3 months into it the side effects of the medication are starting to kick in.
 

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Hi and welcome to the Forum. So what kind of medication are you on? What kind of diet were you eating? Yes, being nosy but in a good way.
 

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:welcome: to the forum.

Can you put some numbers to your 'self diagnosis' please? On what basis did you decide that you were type 2? And you mention medication side effects. What medication please?

Without more information we can't really give any sensible comment.
 

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Vicky,
I am here at this site so people can ask questions and that will help me manage my diabetes.
As for diet, that is in a state of flux. I think I am going to eat some sort of "standard" breakfast, lunch and dinner for a month just so I can see where I am at. By standard, I mean the same thing every breakfast, lunch and dinner. My breakfast is looking to be -- one egg, 2 slices of bacon, 1 slice 7 grain bread with plenty of butter, 1/2 cup oatmeal with pecan meal and piece of fruit (apple , banana, or cutey orange) and coffee with plenty of cream.

Once I see where this is taking me I hope to make changes to my diet.

My medication is in flux. I was on 2x1000mg metformin and 2x50mg glipizide but my
doctor changed it 4x500mg Metformin ER and cut out the glipizide just yesterday.

My A1C at dx was 8.8 (mid Sept 2014) and was 6.2 last time (mid Nov 2014).

My FBG was mid 90's this morning but I will have to wait a week or so to see
what it is without the glipizide. I am glad to be off the glipizide because I was having some
hypos (<70) and not always feeling them. Plus I think I had a few at night. I will be less
worried about exercising now to as I think that can cause hypos as well.

I'll put my numbers in a signature when they let me after my 5th post.
Thanks for the question.
 

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John.in.France

I self diagnosed after googling "alway thirsty and frequent urination". I went to Walmart and bought a BG meter and my first reading (a random reading) was 220 so I knew I had a problem. I hit the gym pretty hard (3 or 4 days a week at 2+ hours a day with 30 minutes cardio). I changed my diet to cut out what I call the white carbs (sugar, flour, potatoes, rice, milk (but not dairy) and things made with these. I had fiber suppliment, fish oil, B12 and E.
My fbg were 95-110 most days (my only measurement) for about 3 years. Then in mid September I got sick and lost control of my BG and wound up in the ER. I kick myself for not getting on Metformin earlier. There I was diagnosed with diabetes and high blood pressure.
I was initially prescribed metformin and glipizide for the diabetes and lisinopril for the high blood pressure. My numbers for both have been good. But I have been having the usual side effects ( Metformin caused GERD and glipizide caused some hypos probably from cutting back on carbs at the same time ). And I having some unusual side effects (ringing in my ears and insomnia , possible cause by hypos at night ) as well as just plain feeling run down.

My medication , diet , and side effects are in a state of flux right now.
Thanks for the question. This site has already be a real good resource
and I hope to contribute to it.
 

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Thanks - your second paragraph cleared up my worry particularly when you had mentioned medication in another post. :)

This is too serious a condition to play guessing games with - as you discovered in the ER (same place as I found out too!).

Welcome to the club and your last paragraphs sums us up - share the knowledge and we all get the benefit!
 

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Vicky,
I am here at this site so people can ask questions and that will help me manage my diabetes.
As for diet, that is in a state of flux. I think I am going to eat some sort of "standard" breakfast, lunch and dinner for a month just so I can see where I am at. By standard, I mean the same thing every breakfast, lunch and dinner. My breakfast is looking to be -- one egg, 2 slices of bacon, 1 slice 7 grain bread with plenty of butter, 1/2 cup oatmeal with pecan meal and piece of fruit (apple , banana, or cutey orange) and coffee with plenty of cream.
Recognizing that you simply may be looking to establish a baseline or reference point, I'm guessing you will probably want to end up increasing the eggs to 2 or 3, the bacon to 4 or 5 slices, and stick with the coffee with cream. That should put you at 500-ish calories.

Other than that, there's no real reason for the bread, oatmeal, or fruit--although you probably know that already. I can't tell you how many bowls of oatmeal I suffered through over the years, all the while thinking that that was the "heart-healthy" way to eat, and all the while my BG was creeping upward and upward. Diabetes is like the death from a thousand cuts. In my opinion it is probably best to just move on with the transition back to a healthier LC way of eating given your now-known condition as a diabetic . . . that last point is important. Serving yourself bread, oatmeal, and fruit for breakfast is like an alcoholic starting the day with a Bloody Mary.

The benefit of cutting the carbs is that this will probably be a faster way of getting off the medications that are giving you such bad side effects. If hypos from exercise continue to be an issue, start every workout with a handful of mixed nuts.

anyway. Good luck with it. This is a great forum with lots of good folks, all of whom have experienced diabetes in different ways. Keep us posted on how it's going.
Jim
 

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You've displayed pretty good instincts so far, RP, so if you wouldn't mind sharing why you feel obliged to include bread, oatmeal and fruit in your meals, when those very foods are going to contribute to the high blood sugar levels you're trying to avoid. I like the way Jim puts it . . . 'Serving yourself bread, oatmeal, and fruit for breakfast is like an alcoholic starting the day with a Bloody Mary.'
 

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Welcome to the forum rpbaum00! Glad you found us!

If you would like some really good ideas of what is best for diabetics to eat, take a look at this site. The author is a doctor from Sweden. Many of us here have great success following a low carb/high fat way of eating.

If you are seriously going to eat that bread, oatmeal and fruit 3 times a day for a month, be prepared to see bg numbers higher than you have ever seen!! You will do yourself no favors eating those items.

Amble over to our Diet & Nutrition sub forum for some far better meal choices. Check out the sticky threads re what we eat for various meals and snacks.

Again Welcome!
 

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Thanks everyone for letting me know that the breakfast I thought was probably a good one has some serious issues. I thought there were suppose to be two kinds of carbohydrates but from the replies it seems like a carb from a banana is the same as a carb from a piece of candy. I will probably have to relearn what I thought about my diet.
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Carbs break down into glucose. A carb is a carb is a carb. Interestingly, some people tolerate individual carb-foods better than others. As you get into refining how you control your BG, you should be able to - very gently - experiment with individual foods.

I am not on medication. But, many times here and on other forums, people have said the internal unpleasantness they experience on metformin improved greatly as they reduced how many carbs they were eating.

A1c 8.8 to 6.2 in two months is a great start!
 

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Thanks everyone for letting me know that the breakfast I thought was probably a good one has some serious issues. I thought there were suppose to be two kinds of carbohydrates but from the replies it seems like a carb from a banana is the same as a carb from a piece of candy. I will probably have to relearn what I thought about my diet.
Cheers
You aren't the first nor the last to fall victim to these dietary mistakes - this is what's been preached at us for the last 50-60 years as a 'healthy' way-of-eating. Except it's not. :rolleyes: Surely not for diabetics, and basically not for anybody, IMO.

An enzyme called amylase starts converting these carby foods to glucose as soon as we start chewing. We have a technique for getting control that is called eat-to-your-meter. So look at the link GrammaB gave you, and use this testing method on those foods - you'll be off & running.
 

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.. it seems like a carb from a banana is the same as a carb from a piece of candy. I will probably have to relearn what I thought about my diet.
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Basically the only difference to our body comes down to timing. Glucose doesn't need digestion, so we see its spike in minutes. Some cereal products on the other hand take over two hours to get there - but the end product is the same. And finally, some "indigestible fibre" is digestible for some of us and needs to be factored in too.

It's a major case of Your Mileage May Vary and that's why Shanny's suggestion of "Eat to the Meter" is the only way to go.
 
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