I think you need to have more information. Right now you do not have grounds to report the mother for neglect. What the child is eating is perfectly normal for a child. It sounds like the mother needs more help with carb counting and matching insulin to carbs. Also if she is only gettiing insulin in the morning (L and N?) in the morning then the food she eats at lunch time is receiving no coverage for the carbs she is eating and thus you are seeing the high numbers. You don't say what the N means so I can't tell if that is Novolog which is a fast acting insulin that is used for meals and corrections or Novolin which is a regular insulin and lasts about 6 hours and has an unpredictable peak. It is common for young children to have numbers all over the place. Adults I would expect to have more control. The mother is not neglecting her child. She may not have the proper training and just doesn't know but the fact that she is doing what she was told is not neglect.
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Hi Everyone,
I'm new here and I'm desperate for help. I care for a 7 year old child who has type 1 diabetes. Her mother controls her insulin and provides her breakfast, lunch and snacks while at my place. Her mother gives her a needle in the morning with 2 different insulins (L&N) which are to cover her for the day.
On a usual day she will start off anywhere from 3 to 20 at 7:00 am. Breakfast provided by mom is generally fruit loops, sugar crisp or frosted flakes (insane, I know). By 10:30 her number is generally around 20 or higher. Snack is often cheese crackers, juice and applesauce or sometimes fruit snacks. By lunchtime I test her she will often be anywhere from 10 - 28. Lunch is often either a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, a pizza pop. By the afternoon she is sometimes nearing a reasonable reading of 10, but sometimes as high at 25.
Yesterday she was 28 at 10:30, 25 at lunch and 17 at 2:30. I called mom at work, but she said she couldn't get away.
I know that this is not good, but I guess I need concrete information about her food choices. When I suggested that fruit loops might not be a good choice for her, her mom said "oh, they are actually fine for diabetics". I asked if PB&J was ok, and she said she uses special sugar free jam and peanut butter.
Yesterday, an uncle was visiting who also has diabetes. He said to me "have you contact child and family services and reporter her for neglect?".
So, my question is this:
Is Fruit Loops, Frosted Flakes or Corn Pops an "OK" choice for a diabetic?
Is a pizza pop or a PB&J sandwich ok?
Should I report her considering this has been ongoing for about 3 years (to my knowledge, 3 years, likely longer)?
If her mother doesn't smarten up, could she end up in kidney failure?
Thanks.
I'm new here and I'm desperate for help. I care for a 7 year old child who has type 1 diabetes. Her mother controls her insulin and provides her breakfast, lunch and snacks while at my place. Her mother gives her a needle in the morning with 2 different insulins (L&N) which are to cover her for the day.
On a usual day she will start off anywhere from 3 to 20 at 7:00 am. Breakfast provided by mom is generally fruit loops, sugar crisp or frosted flakes (insane, I know). By 10:30 her number is generally around 20 or higher. Snack is often cheese crackers, juice and applesauce or sometimes fruit snacks. By lunchtime I test her she will often be anywhere from 10 - 28. Lunch is often either a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, a pizza pop. By the afternoon she is sometimes nearing a reasonable reading of 10, but sometimes as high at 25.
Yesterday she was 28 at 10:30, 25 at lunch and 17 at 2:30. I called mom at work, but she said she couldn't get away.
I know that this is not good, but I guess I need concrete information about her food choices. When I suggested that fruit loops might not be a good choice for her, her mom said "oh, they are actually fine for diabetics". I asked if PB&J was ok, and she said she uses special sugar free jam and peanut butter.
Yesterday, an uncle was visiting who also has diabetes. He said to me "have you contact child and family services and reporter her for neglect?".
So, my question is this:
Is Fruit Loops, Frosted Flakes or Corn Pops an "OK" choice for a diabetic?
Is a pizza pop or a PB&J sandwich ok?
Should I report her considering this has been ongoing for about 3 years (to my knowledge, 3 years, likely longer)?
If her mother doesn't smarten up, could she end up in kidney failure?
Thanks.
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First of all, I want to say, we don't know the situation with this mom. We don't know what L and N means regarding Insulins. Is L and N Lantus and Novolog or is it Levemir and Novolog or is it Lantus and Novolin (Regular) Secondly the snacks and lunchtime meals are not being covered by insulin. What is the reason for this. Is this daycare unwilling to do the insulin injections via pen or other means? Also you would be surprised at the people who don't know how to count carbs properly even though they may have had diabetes education. There is a lot of information lacking. I am not picking sides, but just too much information is missing. I would recommend to tell this mother about CWD though. She would love it there and she would get so much support and help from the parents there. The website is children with DIABETES Online CommunityI agree.her mom needs to get informed and diabetic education.
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