How to lower glucose w/out insulin?

Yes, there are natural ways to lower it, and we told you about them in your previous thread - here and here. You'll have to let go of the belief that whole grains, milk & fruit are good for her. Those are the things that are sending her way too high. Not saying they aren't part of a healthy diet - they just aren't part of HER healthy diet anymore, if it turns out she's diabetic.

Stay with the organic, of course, but lose the grains of all kinds - wheat, corn, oats, rice - and anything MADE with grains, even whole grains. This is serious, and these are the worst offenders for diabetics. If she's a big milk drinker, lose the milk too - it's loaded with lactose.

Keep the high-fiber vegetables, and for fruits she could have avocado, eggplant or possibly tomato, if it doesn't spike her. If berries don't spike her, try raspberries, blackberries, blueberries - even strawberries. Pour a little heavy cream on them to get used to using fats. If she's accustomed to milk, use cream. Include as much natural fat in her diet as you can - this will provide the energy that she's been getting from carbs - butter on the hot veggies, etc. Heavy cream, full fat sour cream, full fat mayo, full fat yogurt. These are good for diabetics, and I agree with Ann that she's prob'ly a type 1. How does she feel about tuna salad? It's ideal, made with chopped hard cooked egg & full fat mayo - sugar-free relish if you can get it (I find it at Kroger). Salmon patties are good too . . . just try to work around foods she likes that are high-fat & low-carb.

edit: I should also assure you that a high fat diet will NOT increase risks of cardiovascular disease. There are mountains of evidence from years back which underscore the fallacy in the "bad fats" propaganda. Please don't be afraid of using natural fats, both saturated & unsaturated - they are good healthy food for everyone, and especially for people with diabetes.

Good luck to you & your young lady.

Excuse me if it came off as abrasive, it was meant to be informative. We often have people who come and post their problems, and many of us make carefully considered responses, only to have the same people come back later starting all over at the beginning, either having forgotten they've already been here, or perhaps they think we don't pay enough attention to remember them from before. Part of the problem is that a great many forums use the vBulletin format, so we all look alike. And when this happens, I try to remind them that we're familiar with their situation and have made suggestions already. That way we don't spend valuable time slogging through territory we've already covered. Because many of us frequent several diabetes sites, we become aware that often a troubled person will hit many forums at once and may easily get lost in the deluge of messages they receive. These are the reasons why you were directed to your previous thread. None of them may apply to you, but now you know why it was presented the way it was.

I also understand that you may be stressed a little more than usual, so I'm considering that as part of your sensitivity. Forgive me for rubbing you the wrong way.

Now as to your seemingly abrasive response about the risk of high fat diets on CVD, I will ask other members to explain and cite their sources, since you would rather I not respond. But the science of which you speak has been disproven, and I think you would be wise on your daughter's account, to do the research and find the truth of the matter. If you use PubMed or Google Scholar or other reliable search sites, look for studies regarding any association between cholesterol and coronary heart disease. JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association), AJCN (American Journal of Clinical Nutrition), and the Lancet are also reputable resources. Whatever you find, you can take THIS to the bank: the lipids hypothesis is dead.