I had a bad day......

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rubystar2

Discussion Starter · Feb 15, 2009

I went out to dinner with my son and granddaughter today for Valentine's Day. We were going to go to Red Lobster where I could surely eat pretty well and still stay low carb. The wait was 1.5 hours so we didn't eat there. We ended up at this pretty nice restaurant where I ordered a petit filet mignon and grilled salmon. Sounds okay, right? Well, I ate two pieces of the wonderfully delicious but high carb crusty bread they served with the salads. THEN I ate ALL my garlic mashed potatoes. And the real kicker? Right before we went in I was going to take my Byetta. Well, there were no more doses left so I didn't even get to take my Byetta before eating so many carbs. My glucose two hours post prandial was 143. *sigh* But it was delicious.

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Terrie

· #2 · Feb 15, 2009

Oh Good Heavens Ruby.....the world has ended.

Your 143(7.9) is lower than my 8.9(160). And I don't consider 8.9 a Terrible number after eating. Too bad that you didn't get to use your Byetta though.

We went to a Chinese buffet. Killer food, if you don't know how to bolus for your situation. We do not venture there often. Just for Special occasions.

I was 5.4(97.2) ten minutes before the meal. I injected 7 units Humalog. 1 hour after 3/4 of the meal, I was 8.9(160). Two hours total after my meal, I was 9.6(176.2), so I injected another 5 units of Humalog since I knew I hadn't digested the rest of my meal. Three hours later, I was 5.2(93.6). Chinese food and similar requires more Insulin and 2 shots for me. We had a Good time.

I'm Happy that you got to spend time with your Son and GrandDaughter and enjoyed your meal Ruby.

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rubystar2

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 15, 2009

Thanks for making me feel better about it. Here it is 9 hours after the meal and I'm still feeling full and glucose is 115. I know those numbers aren't bad but usually my glucose is anywhere from 90-115 pre-meal, post-meal, before exercise (not that I do much of that), after exercise, etc. I am a type 2 diabetic and I work with a lady who is type1 and pumping. When she comes in the morning (I work nights) we sometimes take our blood sugars together and 'make bets' on what our sugars will be. I always say "I'm 104" and I'm usually within 5 points plus or minus because that's where I'm ALWAYS at.

Richard157

· #4 · Feb 15, 2009 (Edited)

Ruby, I am jealous of your great control. If I had eaten that very high carb meal I would have been at least 300 (16.7) two hours later without insulin. I have insulin resistance like you even though I am Type 1 so I have to take large doses of insulin for high carb meals. Your numbers are wonderful. With control like that you may live forever!!! LOL!

Richard

rubystar2

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 15, 2009

Don't overestimate me! But thanks anyway. I've only been a type2 for 2 years and I have a long way to go (I hope). My diabetes hasn't progressed very much yet, but I'm sure as the years go by it will. That is just the nature of the beast. I get my blood drawn tonight for an A1C, a lipid panel and a chemistry profile. I'll share those numbers with you all and THEN we'll see what you all think.

MissMeg

· #6 · Feb 15, 2009

I am jealous dear.. lol I could only dream of that kind of numbers after eating!! HECK my numbers are higher than that if I think of eating something with carbs in it!!! lol We where going to go for chinese food last night but I knew exactly how it would make me feel if I did.. and well it was Valentine's Day

and I didn't want to feel sluggish!!! Now my ultimate favorite thing at Red Lobster is the Cheddar biscuits OMG I could eat a ZILLION and a half of those!!! Hmmm see thinking of those biscuits might have just raised my lovely sugars-- maybe I should go check!! lol

rubystar2

Discussion Starter · #7 · Feb 15, 2009

Good point, Meg. I think maybe I should be glad we didn't get into Red Lobster. I forgot about those biscuits and I was just thinking how low carb I could eat with a salad and fish or seafood. Ah, yes, the biscuits...........*stares off dreamily into space*

Anthill

· #8 · Feb 16, 2009

OMG!!! Rubystar , It's only natural that we can go off the rails sometimes. I was in a calculating bind as I have decided on having my childhood favourite drink and that's Sarsaparilla!! YUM then had a look at the carbs!!!! CRUMS!!! It's too much. It was 57 Grammes of Carbohydrates so I have rounded of at 60 carbs = 6CP Carb Portions so my I:C 4:1 ratio works out to be 4*6=24U of Novorapid.

Gee it was nice.

rubystar2

Discussion Starter · #9 · Feb 16, 2009

Anthill said:
OMG!!! Rubystar , It's only natural that we can go off the rails sometimes. I was in a calculating bind as I have decided on having my childhood favourite drink and that's Sarsaparilla!! YUM then had a look at the carbs!!!! CRUMS!!! It's too much. It was 57 Grammes of Carbohydrates so I have rounded of at 60 carbs = 6CP Carb Portions so my I:C 4:1 ratio works out to be 4*6=24U of Novorapid.

Gee it was nice.

Thanks alot, Peter. Now you have me craving a sarsaparilla.

levi's mom

· #10 · Feb 16, 2009

rubystar2 said:
Thanks for making me feel better about it. Here it is 9 hours after the meal and I'm still feeling full and glucose is 115. I know those numbers aren't bad but usually my glucose is anywhere from 90-115 pre-meal, post-meal, before exercise (not that I do much of that), after exercise, etc. I am a type 2 diabetic and I work with a lady who is type1 and pumping. When she comes in the morning (I work nights) we sometimes take our blood sugars together and 'make bets' on what our sugars will be. I always say "I'm 104" and I'm usually within 5 points plus or minus because that's where I'm ALWAYS at.

I agree with Richard. If I had eaten that meal I would have been sky high. Don't be so hard on yourself. You deserve to be bad once in awhile

Anthill

· #11 · Feb 17, 2009

levi's mom said:
Don't be so hard on yourself. You deserve to be bad once in awhile

Yes Levi, If you been good for a good while, Go on have a treat and spoil yourself. but just that once in a wile.

levi's mom

· #12 · Feb 17, 2009

Anthill said:
Yes Levi, If you been good for a good while, Go on have a treat and spoil yourself. but just that once in a wile.

You guys on insulin seem to have a lot more flexibility. My boss at work is a type 2, like me, but went on insulin. Because, 1. he didn't like the way the pills made him feel and 2. he said he doesn't want to be so strict with his diet. He just adjust his insulin according to what he eats. I know I'm extremely carb sensitive so I have to be pretty strict. It's only going to be 3 months in march that I'm on meds. so maybe after awhile I'll be able to lighten up. I miss cereal, grits, oatmeal.

rubystar2

Discussion Starter · #13 · Feb 17, 2009

levi's mom said:
You guys on insulin seem to have a lot more flexibility. My boss at work is a type 2, like me, but went on insulin. Because, 1. he didn't like the way the pills made him feel and 2. he said he doesn't want to be so strict with his diet. He just adjust his insulin according to what he eats. I know I'm extremely carb sensitive so I have to be pretty strict. It's only going to be 3 months in march that I'm on meds. so maybe after awhile I'll be able to lighten up. I miss cereal, grits, oatmeal.

I still eat cereal. I usually eat Fiber One or All Bran Buds. Both of those have a lot of fiber in them and do not raise my blood sugar too bad. I also eat oatmeal, but you have to be careful what you mix in it. Portion control is important, too. What meds are you on? I am on 1000 mg metformin twice a day and 10 mcg of Byetta twice a day. My diabetes seems to be kept under control pretty easily. But I'm sure that will change over time. You'll have to experiment and find foods that work for you. Try Fiber One cereal, the original flavor. It's pretty good and I bet it won't raise your blood sugar too bad.

levi's mom

· #14 · Feb 18, 2009

rubystar2 said:
I still eat cereal. I usually eat Fiber One or All Bran Buds. Both of those have a lot of fiber in them and do not raise my blood sugar too bad. I also eat oatmeal, but you have to be careful what you mix in it. Portion control is important, too. What meds are you on? I am on 1000 mg metformin twice a day and 10 mcg of Byetta twice a day. My diabetes seems to be kept under control pretty easily. But I'm sure that will change over time. You'll have to experiment and find foods that work for you. Try Fiber One cereal, the original flavor. It's pretty good and I bet it won't raise your blood sugar too bad.

I am on metformin hcl 1000 mgs. 2 x's a day. I'm going to try the fiber 1 today and see what happens. I only put nuts and a little 1/2 & 1/2 in my oatmeal. What do you call too bad? What kind of raise do you expect?

rubystar2

Discussion Starter · #15 · Feb 18, 2009

levi's mom said:
I am on metformin hcl 1000 mgs. 2 x's a day. I'm going to try the fiber 1 today and see what happens. I only put nuts and a little 1/2 & 1/2 in my oatmeal. What do you call too bad? What kind of raise do you expect?

Well, I guess what I meant by "it won't raise your blood glucose too bad" is that it won't raise it out of a safe range. Nuts and half and half in oatmeal sounds reasonable. How high does your blood glucose go after eating the oatmeal with nuts and half and half? Are you sure to eat just one serving? After a serving of oatmeal OR the Fiber One cereal I test two hours after eating. I don't think it's been higher than 140. But I am still kind of new and learning but I seem to have diabetes that is easy to control. My doctor diagnosed me early and I don't think my diabetes is as bad as many peoples. I have been blessed (so far) to easily control my diabetes. I'm sure as the years advance and the diabetes progresses I won't be so lucky. Let us know how the Fiber One cereal works out for you.

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levi's mom

· #16 · Feb 18, 2009

rubystar2 said:
Well, I guess what I meant by "it won't raise your blood glucose too bad" is that it won't raise it out of a safe range. Nuts and half and half in oatmeal sounds reasonable. How high does your blood glucose go after eating the oatmeal with nuts and half and half? Are you sure to eat just one serving? After a serving of oatmeal OR the Fiber One cereal I test two hours after eating. I don't think it's been higher than 140. But I am still kind of new and learning but I seem to have diabetes that is easy to control. My doctor diagnosed me early and I don't think my diabetes is as bad as many peoples. I have been blessed (so far) to easily control my diabetes. I'm sure as the years advance and the diabetes progresses I won't be so lucky. Let us know how the Fiber One cereal works out for you.

i started out with a fasting today of 126, 2 hours after the 1/2 cup serving of fiber one with soy milk my reading was 162. i have read where you want to be under 180 sois that reading o.k.. I thought it was high.

rubystar2

Discussion Starter · #17 · Feb 19, 2009

levi's mom said:
i started out with a fasting today of 126, 2 hours after the 1/2 cup serving of fiber one with soy milk my reading was 162. i have read where you want to be under 180 sois that reading o.k.. I thought it was high.

It is hard for me to answer that for you. If you went to diabetes education classes or saw a Registered Dietician, I would ask them. Or you can call your doctor and ask him/her. I don't know what guidelines your doctor wants for you or what he/she suggested your blood glucoses should be. I don't think it sounds too terribly high, considering your fasting was slightly elevated. Again, I don't really know. I know my doctor wants my 2 hour post prandial to be under 140. But I am discovering my diabetes is pretty cooperative with me and my medications (at least for now).

Richard157

· #18 · Feb 19, 2009

Two hours after a meal I want my BG less than 120 and four hours after meals I want 100 or less. I keep my overall daily average a little under 100. That is the way I keep my A1c below 6.0. To have an A1c that is a nondiabetic level I must keep it below 6.0. That kind of A1c gives us a much better chance of avoiding long term compications like retinopathy, neuropathy, kidney damage, etc.

Richard

rubystar2

Discussion Starter · #19 · Feb 19, 2009

Richard157 said:
Two hours after a meal I want my BG less than 120 and four hours after meals I want 100 or less. I keep my overall daily average a little under 100. That is the way I keep my A1c below 6.0. To have an A1c that is a nondiabetic level I must keep it below 6.0. That kind of A1c gives us a much better chance of avoiding long term compications like retinopathy, neuropathy, kidney damage, etc.

Richard

There. Thanks, Richard. I knew someone would come along who knew more than me.

levi's mom

· #20 · Feb 20, 2009

Richard157 said:
Two hours after a meal I want my BG less than 120 and four hours after meals I want 100 or less. I keep my overall daily average a little under 100. That is the way I keep my A1c below 6.0. To have an A1c that is a nondiabetic level I must keep it below 6.0. That kind of A1c gives us a much better chance of avoiding long term compications like retinopathy, neuropathy, kidney damage, etc.

Richard

I am sometimes under 120, 2 hours after but not always. If I am VERY strict with my carbs. I probably eat a total of maybe 50 or 60 a day on a real good day. If my readings go close to 100 or under I feel like I am having hypoglycemia. I'm very sensitive to the lower readings. Didn't they change the optimal #'s? I thought it was a fasting of 90 to 120 before? At least that's what I remember back then. You are really on top of your game Richard!

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