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The beginning of the month I had labs done again. My last labs were in November of last year. This time my PA checked off the CBC (Complete Blood Count), why, I have no idea, I just do what he asks and he gives me whatever I ask for. Works for me! This time I thought I'd have the lab send me a copy of the lab report so I could be prepared when I went to see him on the 18th to get refill scripts. Going over all the blood and urine tests they did I noticed under CBC/RBC (Red Blood Cells) that I almost fell below the range. The range being [4.70 - 6.00] M/uL. My RBC came back 4.75 M/uL and I thought that a bit borderline.

Way back when, in another lifetime, I remember watching a couple shows on TV, black & white TV to be exact, that's how long ago it was, and seeing an advertisement for a snake oil called Geritol, advertised as "twice the iron in a pound of calf's liver," and contained, at that time, ferric ammonium citrate. Of course the target audience was old folks...so I figured I'd wait another 50 years before I bought a bottle.

About 10 days ago, while grocery shopping at Raley's, I browsed the pharmacy counter where they keep all the supplements and found an iron supplement. Ferrous Bis-Glycinate mixed in with Vitamin C, Folic Acid and Vitamin B-12. My daily vitamin/mineral supplement contains no Iron (Centrum Silver). It says A to Z on the bottle...but the only I it contains is Iodine.

Iron is a mineral used by the body in the production of red blood cells. Specifically, iron is used in the production of hemoglobin, which is the main protein in red blood cells. Hemoglobin carries oxygen throughout the body, so without iron, the tissues, muscles, and other systems do not receive adequate oxygen, and thus cannot function properly. This leads to fatigue and poor health. An iron deficiency can also cause shortness of breath, inability to perform physical tasks well, poor attention, and other learning problems...all earmarks of my new-onset diabetes. I started talking the supplement 10 days ago.

This last week has been a change in my life and my overall feeling of well-being. I'm running around fixing things that aren't broke, cleaning things that aren't dirty, making long posts to the point of ad nauseum and I'm seriously, at the age of 67, contemplating climbing Mount Everest when spring comes around! Well, not really...but you get the gist of my newfound vigor.

I thought I'd discuss the test result for red cell count with my PA on the 18th but he wasn't in that day. I did bring it to the attention of the substitute PA I saw that day and asked her if she thought an iron supplement might be in order and she seemed unmoved by my question. "Sure! Try it if you want." I can't stand apathetic caregivers. I even had to go back after going to the pharmacy to have her correct my prescriptions. Where do these PAs come from, community college?

Anyway...I'm not sure what Iron Glycinate is in the iron family. I tried sticking a magnet to one of the pills and it doesn't stick. Maybe the magnet's anemic! :rolleyes:
 

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Great Find !!!

my lab report shows RBC 4.75 M/mcl range 4.7 - 6.1 also and none of my 30 supplements have any iron. guess i'm off to the drug store for an iron supplement!
so it took about a week to show results?
maybe they removed it when there was the scare that excess iron might cause cancer in men?

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The beginning of the month I had labs done again. My last labs were in November of last year. This time my PA checked off the CBC (Complete Blood Count), why, I have no idea, I just do what he asks and he gives me whatever I ask for. Works for me! This time I thought I'd have the lab send me a copy of the lab report so I could be prepared when I went to see him on the 18th to get refill scripts. Going over all the blood and urine tests they did I noticed under CBC/RBC (Red Blood Cells) that I almost fell below the range. The range being [4.70 - 6.00] M/uL. My RBC came back 4.75 M/uL and I thought that a bit borderline.

Way back when, in another lifetime, I remember watching a couple shows on TV, black & white TV to be exact, that's how long ago it was, and seeing an advertisement for a snake oil called Geritol, advertised as "twice the iron in a pound of calf's liver," and contained, at that time, ferric ammonium citrate. Of course the target audience was old folks...so I figured I'd wait another 50 years before I bought a bottle.

About 10 days ago, while grocery shopping at Raley's, I browsed the pharmacy counter where they keep all the supplements and found an iron supplement. Ferrous Bis-Glycinate mixed in with Vitamin C, Folic Acid and Vitamin B-12. My daily vitamin/mineral supplement contains no Iron (Centrum Silver). It says A to Z on the bottle...but the only I it contains is Iodine.

Iron is a mineral used by the body in the production of red blood cells. Specifically, iron is used in the production of hemoglobin, which is the main protein in red blood cells. Hemoglobin carries oxygen throughout the body, so without iron, the tissues, muscles, and other systems do not receive adequate oxygen, and thus cannot function properly. This leads to fatigue and poor health. An iron deficiency can also cause shortness of breath, inability to perform physical tasks well, poor attention, and other learning problems...all earmarks of my new-onset diabetes. I started talking the supplement 10 days ago.

This last week has been a change in my life and my overall feeling of well-being. I'm running around fixing things that aren't broke, cleaning things that aren't dirty, making long posts to the point of ad nauseum and I'm seriously, at the age of 67, contemplating climbing Mount Everest when spring comes around! Well, not really...but you get the gist of my newfound vigor.

I thought I'd discuss the test result for red cell count with my PA on the 18th but he wasn't in that day. I did bring it to the attention of the substitute PA I saw that day and asked her if she thought an iron supplement might be in order and she seemed unmoved by my question. "Sure! Try it if you want." I can't stand apathetic caregivers. I even had to go back after going to the pharmacy to have her correct my prescriptions. Where do these PAs come from, community college?

Anyway...I'm not sure what Iron Glycinate is in the iron family. I tried sticking a magnet to one of the pills and it doesn't stick. Maybe the magnet's anemic! :rolleyes:
 
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It took a few days, Jim. I'm not sure just how the interaction of iron and how it helps the hemoglobin works, rather it attaches in the bone marrow to promote better RBC count...or it attaches after the fact. I've found unless you're smoking something...there's a lag period. :D
 

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soda pop destroys iron? interesting!

soda pop destroys iron? interesting!

being that i use to drink 4 liters of cola a day, i found this very informative.

Slow Fe (ferrous sulfate) for Iron Deficiency Anemia: I was anemic for years, and thought it was just the way I was. I had no idea that the soda I was drinking was stopping my body from absorbing iron (and calcium). One night, my heart rate didn't slow down. I woke my husband and we went to the hospital. I found that my anemia was so bad that my red blood cells couldn't get enough oxygen to my body, and my heart was racing trying to get more Oxygen delivered. The doctors said my heart would have just given up had I not come in. I found "normal" iron pills gave me horrible, painful gas. Slow FE was the only iron that didn't. It's made differently than iron pills and your body is able to break it down without the difficult side effects, but it can cause constipation. I eat 3 prunes a day.




ferrous sulfate systemic User Reviews at Drugs.com
 
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The iron supplement I bought is from Nature's Bounty, says Gentile On Your Stomach on the face of the bottle. Maybe that's because it's Iron Glycinate, not Ferris Sulfate.
 

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Well - you two managed to trip my trigger, so I went & looked up my last CBC, which was back in April. This must be one of those things where different labs have different units of measure, because mine says the standard range is 3.90-4.90 M/uL, and my own RBC count was 4.12 (and I can't find what M/uL stands for either . . . :confused:)
 
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White Blood Cells are measured in thousands per cubic milliliter (K/uL)

Red blood cells are measured in millions per cubic milliliter (M/uL)

Platelets are measured in thousands per cubic milliliter (K/uL)

Another measurement you might find on your lab report would be g/dL which stands for grams per deciliter.
 
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