[soapluvr]

Anyone heard or read of this? I had a friend email me some info about keto causing diabetes.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-08-ketogenic-diets-diabetes.html

Sadly as someone else said on this forum I've come to take most of these studies with a grain of salt and just rely on my own testing/meter.

 

[itissteve]

After reading the study, my take on it is that there are so many variables that I would not worry about it. At least for right now, lowering blood glucose, (likely) losing weight, and improving cholesterol measurements are enough well-documented reasons to go LCHF/ketogenic, without worrying about an uncertain pathway in mice that led this study to its conclusion.

 

[rsfletcher]

Anyone heard or read of this? I had a friend email me some info about keto causing diabetes.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-08-ketogenic-diets-diabetes.html

Sadly as someone else said on this forum I've come to take most of these studies with a grain of salt and just rely on my own testing/meter.

This looks like marketing spin to me - there were no real hard numbers being presented and very scant information. The key sentence for me was "may cause an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes in the early stage of the diet." I suspect a lot of things "may cause an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes".

As well no comparison or percentage pf people diagnosed with Type 2 that had a carb rich diet vs those who did not.

And finally - let's look at perspective. I have the impression that most people go to a Keto diet after they have been diagnosed - this diet greatly helps them with their Type 2 condition and often vastly improves their overall health.

My theory - if you have had a carb rich diet all your life resulting in being over-weight etc. You radically change your diet - it's going to be a shock to your liver. That's a given but "may cause" Type 2?

It will be interesting to see if this is a start to a new PR campaign against KETO diets as a lot of food producers will experience a net loss in revenues as more people adapt to the Keto philosophy.

Me - I'm low carb but not Keto (although) it probably would not take much for me to go in to Ketosis - I have found a balance for me - about 60 grams per day.

 

[Cricket]

I trust one thing. My own lab results.

 

[soapluvr]

I trust one thing. My own lab results.

Me too Cricket.:smile2:

 

[mbuster]

From the article:

The study, which was conducted by ETH Zurich in conjunction with University Children's Hospital Zurich, involved feeding mice two different types of diet (a ketogenic diet and a high fat diet, which causes the liver to become resistant to insulin) and then performing standard metabolic tests on them.

Hope it is a typo on the reporter's part and not from the study. This made me blow it off to begin with.

Although ketogenic diets are known to be healthy, our findings indicate that there may be an increased risk of insulin resistance with this type of diet that may lead to Type 2 diabetes.

It is true that being in ketosis does cause some insulin resistance, I think it is pure unfounded speculation that it MAY lead to type 2 diabetes. But, if it does, I'm already diabetic, so what are my risks? So far it has only made me less diabetic if you look at my BG and A1c numbers.