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Lantus and Levemir: What's the Difference? - Diabetes Health
Lantus and Levemir: What's the Difference?
Linda von Wartburg
Jul 17, 2007

Lantus and Levemir have a lot in common. Both are basal insulin formulas, which means that they last for a long time in the body and act as background insulin, with a slow feed that mimics the constant low output of insulin produced by a healthy pancreas.

Both are insulin analogues, which means that their insulin molecules are analogous to human insulin, but engineered, or recombined, with slight differences that slow their absorption.

Lantus is a clear formula made with glargine, a genetically modified form of human insulin, dissolved in a special solution. Levemir is also a clear formula, but it contains dissolved detemir, a different form of genetically modified insulin.

Human insulin is made of two amino acid chains, called A and B, that have two disulfide bonds between them. In glargine, one amino acid has been switched out, and two extra amino acids have been added to one end of the B chain. The modifications make glargine soluble at an acidic pH, but much less soluble at the neutral pH that's found in the body

To make Lantus, first the glargine is produced by a vat of E. coli bacteria. Then it's purified and added to a watery solution containing a little zinc and some glycerol; a dash of hydrochloric acid is also added to make it acidic, bringing its pH down to about 4. At that degree of acidity, glargine completely dissolves into the watery solution, which is why the vial is clear.

After you inject it into your subcutaneous tissue, the acidic solution is neutralized by your body to a neutral pH. Because glargine is not soluble at a neutral pH, it precipitates out into a form that's not soluble in subcutaneous fat, and there forms a relatively insoluble depot. From that pool, or depot, of precipitated glargine in the tissues, small amounts slowly move back into solution over time and then to the bloodstream.

Levemir is made with insulin detemir. Insulin determir is created by recombinant DNA technology just like glargine, but is produced by baker's yeast instead of E.coli. It's a clear solution that contains, in addition to the insulin detemir, some zinc, mannitol, other chemicals, and a bit of hydrochloric acid or sodium hydroxide to adjust its pH to neutral. Insulin detemir differs from human insulin in that one amino acid has been omitted from the end of the B chain, and a fatty acid has been attached to the spot instead.

Unlike glargine, detemir does not form a precipitate upon injection. Instead, detemir's action is extended because its altered form makes it stick to itself in the subcutaneous depot (the injection site), so it's slowly absorbed. Once the detemir molecules dissociate from each other, they readily enter the blood circulation, but there the added fatty acid binds to albumin.

More than 98 percent of detemir in the bloodstream is bound to albumin. With the albumin stuck to it, the insulin cannot function. Because it slowly dissociates from the albumin, it is available to the body over an extended period.

Whether Lantus is better than Levemir, or vice versa, is debatable. Levemir is generally supposed to be injected twice daily (although it's approved by the FDA for once or twice daily) and Lantus once. According to Dr. Richard Bernstein, however, Lantus also usually works better if injected twice a day. The acidic nature of Lantus can sometimes cause stinging at the injection site, and both formulas cause allergic reactions in rare cases.

Most trials of the effectiveness of Lantus and Levemir have compared the two insulins to NPH insulin. NPH is a suspension of crystals in a solution, so it needs to be thoroughly shaken before use to distribute the crystals evenly. Some studies have failed to demonstrate any difference between in Lantus and NPH with regard to evenness of absorption.

Other studies have shown that compared to Lantus and Levemir, NPH has a variable absorption rate and a more pronounced peak. At night especially, hypoglycemia can occur if low glucose from exercise or alcohol consumption coincides with the NPH peak.

In some studies, Levemir has demonstrated less variable, steadier blood glucose-lowering effects compared to both NPH insulin and Lantus. Comparing Levemir with Lantus when used with a fast-acting insulin in patients with type 1 diabetes, Levemir had a lower risk of major hypoglycemia and nocturnal hypoglycemia, but the risk of hypoglycemia overall was comparable. The blood sugar control provided by the two insulins was similar as well.
 

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Levemir.

Hello there Frank :D, Thanks for bringing this up as there's a chemical difference but work just the same.
I use Levemir only because I like the pen system as lantus uses the autolet pens and only give 2U steps. :( So how have you been? :)
 

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Hello there Frank :D, Thanks for bringing this up as there's a chemical difference but work just the same.
I use Levemir only because I like the pen system as lantus uses the autolet pens and only give 2U steps. :( So how have you been? :)
Thanks Peter! I am well... a good deal more relaxed "over here" ;) Yes, I think it is important to realise that while they are both "insulin", they have quite different ways of delaying the release of that insulin into the blood stream... perhaps that is the the reason it seems: one works better for some than others.
 

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Thanks Frank - very interesting. I have (fleetingly) wondered about the difference between the two "L's" and you have done my homework. I really like my Levemir and find that it's action lends itself well to even finer tuning than injecting twice a day. I do three injections at 8-hour intervals; This matches my basal needs better than two shots. I'd actually add a fourth and do 6-hour intervals, but am not disciplined enough to make sure it happens religiously!

Jen
 

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Anthill said:
Hello there Frank , Thanks for bringing this up as there's a chemical difference but work just the same.
I use Levemir only because I like the pen system as lantus uses the autolet pens and only give 2U steps.
The Lantus pens I use are available in 1u increments. I think I've heard that Levemir needs 2 injections a day too?
 
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